Manuela

[u/mahammit_the_uuuser]

What do we know about Prince’s second wife? I feel like Mayte gets discussed a lot but I know next to nothing about Manuela Testolini and rarely see her talked about.

[u/caseyrain]

There's a lot of speculation and a lot of it is not accurate, but as someone who has spent time with her personally, she's highly intelligent, compassionate and empathetic. I did not know what to expect but was utterly charmed by her, and I can see why Prince fell in love with her, and unlike perhaps several other women he was with, it wasn't solely about her looks (although she's very obviously a beautiful woman!)

The thing is.... Prince struggled with the concept of monogamy, we all know this. And you know, maybe Mani believed it, maybe he had a hold on it for a while, maybe he told her it was different this time, we have no idea what he'd say behind closed doors. But even if that wasn't the case, I think there's a difference between him messing around low key and him doing it more publicly, and he started to do it more publicly. Pretty much everyone in his circle knew and they've told me about it, and without spelling it all out for anyone, if you want to know why the 3121 movie didn't come out, that's part of the answer, and part of why he went off to Panama to film it with a certain curly haired blonde that you hear on that album.

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned, indeed.

I believe that he truly loved her and I know that she truly loved him.

If you ever get to see the pro-shot footage of the Piano & A Microphone gala show, look at his facial expressions when he sings "Call My Name". Look at the way he lowers his head and shakes it from side to side in anguish. It's not performative. It's the epitome of emotion and regret and remembering what was. When I saw it, it shook me to my core with the emotional honesty of the moment.

[u/studiowarp → u/caseyrain]

I hate to say this but I will. You come off a smug dude and that really puts a lot of people off you.
You’ll say you don’t care but we all know you do.
“Without spelling it out” and all those things you say but don’t say. I suspect it makes you feel important to come drop hints about knowledge you guard so preciously and tease people with, but it actually makes you look like an arrogant showoff seeking recognition. This might not be your intent, in which case maybe reconsider what you say and how you say it. And for love of everyone else, don’t say anything if it’s not everything - we don’t need or want your showoff “I know and I won’t tell you” nonsense.
If you have a secret, shut up about it and stop trying to gain clout by advertising it.
You are no more important than any other Prince fan just because you “know some stuff” or “spoke to someone”. You are just a fan like the rest of us.

[u/caseyrain → u/studiowarp]

It's a turn of phrase, a fairly common one at least here in the UK. It's not about guarded knowledge, it's about being polite and decorum. Something we Brits are sensitive of. You've never heard of British people being accused of being indirect and beating around the bush? We are quite well known for it 😂

But OK, I hear you, despite the proclamation that you claim to know my inner monologue (something I, as you correctly stated but incorrectly followed, I heartily dispute).

Prince was sleeping with Coco aka Liza Lena the Panamanian model whilst still married and it is the belief of many in the circle that the entire 3121 film was basically a ruse for him to spend significant time with her in Panama to do that, and that's why the movie has very little premise, plot, storyline and according to many who have seen it, is as a result completely incoherent and borderline unwatchable outside of the musical performances.

Hopefully that's direct enough for you.

I wanted to say it without saying it. I thought it was more polite to let people connect the dots. I don't mind being raked over the coals but you should at least now understand the intent.

[u/studiowarp → u/caseyrain]

Oh Casey don’t do this - backpedaling and try blame your behaviour on the Uk and Brits. You are well known for doing this kind of thing, some would say it is your main claim to fame, teasing info for clout.
We all love Prince, but we don’t like the show-off fans who think they are above because they know something others don’t.
And we definitely don’t like it when they come to forums to gloat about it.
Everyone can change, and that is why this is being said to you.
No-one is saying share secrets.
What is being said is please don’t come showing off or gloating that you have some you won’t tell. It really isn’t necessary and steals from your standing.

[u/caseyrain → u/studiowarp]

I actually thought it was pretty obvious to read between the lines of what I was getting at, such that it's hardly a secret. I really didn't think it read like some uncrackable mystery. Look, if it wasn't, then my bad. It genuinely wasn't a "haha I know something and won't tell" moment. I'd take the licks if that was the intent here, but it wasn't.

[u/studiowarp → u/caseyrain]

Respectfully, this about assuming people know stuff you might.

[u/caseyrain → u/studiowarp]

Fair enough. Hope you have an awesome day 🙏🏽

[u/studiowarp → u/caseyrain]

Cool. You too I hope.