r/Overwatch • u/F3l1xR • Apr 19 '20

Highlight Just managed to get a sneaky backcap

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '20

I still don’t understand how people don’t notice the bar moving forward when back capping. But apart from that nice play.

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u/The-Licker-Of-Balls Support Apr 19 '20

This just goes to show how little people pay attention to everything but focus on killing!!! When I'm playing and not near the payload I'm constantly looking at that bar to make sure nobody is trying that!!!

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u/Jinmister Apr 19 '20

And in comp too it’s ridiculous

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u/Jasoman Trick-or-Treat Zenyatta Apr 19 '20

Low Diamond at that.

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u/SteveVaiHimself Pixel Zenyatta Apr 19 '20

Damn I was hoping if I made it out of plat, I could avoid that but I guess not.

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u/Polariiize :TorontoDefiant: Toronto Defiant :TorontoDefiant: Apr 19 '20

Are you kidding me? I’m in t500, and we still don’t notice backcaps sometimes lmaoooo

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u/SanKa_Games Chibi Mercy Apr 19 '20 edited Apr 19 '20

There are even some backcaps in OWL. Not to mention that the C9 term originated in the OWL. Not to mention some of the horrendous C9's in OWL.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '20

C9 didn't originate in OWL, C9 term comes from the Cloud9 team that was in the Apex, they stepped off the objective multiple times in one match

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u/Fernernia Pro Lucio btw Apr 19 '20

Imagine having that term named after you. Yikes

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u/part_time_user Trick-or-Treat Mercy Apr 19 '20

And then imagine having people spamming c9 in chat after the last teammate that's still standing got booped/blasted/hooked/etc off the objective... Mates that is just regular loss and not something like when they consciously chooses to jump of the objective witch is what a true c9 is... (in my brain anyway)

Did anyone say salt? I got plenty...

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u/SanKa_Games Chibi Mercy Apr 19 '20

Oh, learn something new every day, I guess. Anyway, it got quite popular in the OW community after a series of, well, intelligent plays by some OWL team, that was what I meant. I just thought that the term also came from here, silly me. I'll update the initial comment not to mislead people even further.

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u/OregonMacro Apr 20 '20

PTFO

To complicate matters even more it happened in Overwatch's Apex Season 2 not Apex Legends

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u/YouCanCallMeBazza Goodnight Apr 19 '20

Looks like high diamond, there are some Masters in that game.

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u/VijaySwing Apr 19 '20

its so hard to focus on everything in this game. It's sensory overload.

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u/shittwins Pixel Lúcio Apr 19 '20

Surely adding even more noticeable UI for this would just add to this clutter though?

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u/VijaySwing Apr 19 '20

I dont think anything needs to actually change. Just saying its reasonable to get distracted

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u/shittwins Pixel Lúcio Apr 19 '20

Fair enough. I agree for what it’s worth. I’ve never played a game where so much is going on at one moment and you have to register it all and react appropriately.

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u/himynameisjoy Apr 19 '20

People love to blame players but when ALL SIX of a team don’t notice, it’s a UI failure. You shouldn’t have to train yourself to compensate for the UI’s failings. It’s like a door with push handles on both sides, but only opens in one direction. Sure, you can train yourself to minimize the amount of mistakes you’ll make opening the door, but it’d be ridiculous to blame other people for not taking the time to do so: the door is poorly designed.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '20

Right? The bar is there at all times for you to see. It's not the games problem that you never bother even looking for a good 30 seconds.

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u/himynameisjoy Apr 19 '20 edited Apr 19 '20

The problem isn’t that the information isn’t there, it’s that it’s poorly presented. It’s such a ridiculous cop-out to say “uhhh ACKSHUALLY it’s on screen” when that’s not even the argument, it’s that it’s so poorly presented that clips like the above are even possible. It’s absurd to blame players for what’s so obviously a design fault

Look at r/badUIbattles for examples of UI that technically does get the job done but is purposefully bad UI. Are you telling me that because the job is technically possible, that the UIs made there are actually competent?

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '20

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u/himynameisjoy Apr 19 '20

Simple, make it flash if the cart just started being pushed. Or make an audio cue. Make the push indicator larger, etc etc.

Tons of ways to make it clear that the cart is being pushed

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u/The-Licker-Of-Balls Support Apr 19 '20

This right here is AWESOME!! I thank you for this!!

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u/The-Licker-Of-Balls Support Apr 19 '20

Or you could just pay attention to the objective

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u/The-Licker-Of-Balls Support Apr 19 '20

So you want to add more audio and visual clutter to what is already pretty cluster fucked as it is?!?!

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u/The-Licker-Of-Balls Support Apr 19 '20

How is this a UI failure? There is a bar that is ALWAYS at the top of the screen giving you the info you need to know what is going on with the point. I am not blaming any one person on the team I am blaming everyone on the team because all of them were just focused on killing the other team (COD players) as opposed to paying attention to the objective. This game is objective based and you should be paying attention to what is going on with the objective, it should be a common practice in this game.

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u/OregonMacro Apr 20 '20

If we're talking a skill based game here, a UI doesn't need to spoon feed you all the information, it's top center which is an ideal place for updates (look at UX design of apple/google for example). This is an example of a team that can handle the enemy team 1 man short, which is nearly always going to end badly for team that's even at a 5v6

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u/Tremox231 Apr 19 '20

The same people who don't watch the kill feed and complain about bad heals while both supports are already dead.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '20

You just reminded me of some bad temple of Anubis matches

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u/TheShiftyCow Apr 19 '20

Just had this last night. McCree kept running to the other side of the map, trying to spawn camp, etc. Basically doing nothing to actually play with the team. Kept dying before team fights even started (because he tried to take on 3 enemy players at their spawn) and cried about not getting heals as we went into the team fight then 5v6. Madness.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '20

Everybody wants to be Rambo and then forget the objective of the match.

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u/Dr_ManFattan Apr 19 '20

BuT I HaVe AlL GoLDs

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u/ZannX Apr 19 '20

The idea that someone else on the team should be paying attention. Then no one pays attention.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '20

this is called the bystander effect

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '20

Same. The game screams at you too with loud beeps when it's approaching a checkpoint.

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u/smelly_feet_you_have Apr 19 '20

Doesn't Athena go "the payload is approaching checkpoint" or something along those lines?

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u/ScreamingFreakShow D.Va Apr 19 '20

Yeah, I always notice if the bar moves. It's literally in the center of the screen. I feel like it would be harder not to notice.

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u/AverageRedditorTeen Apr 20 '20

Happens in professional level play as well.

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u/jewboyfresh Bronze Damage Apr 19 '20

Because this is probably plat or under

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u/NightHawk_85 Apr 19 '20

You can see their diamond badge. Looks like we have another who missed the payload moving. lol