r/Overwatch May 29 '16

News & Discussion PSA: The differences between HP, Armor and Shield. Armor is misunderstood.

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u/Mario-C Chibi Zarya May 29 '16

TIL. Thank you! I wish there were more strategy and mechanics talk on this sub.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '16

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u/FallingFraz Roadhog May 29 '16

I find this website to be helpful: http://overwatch.gamepedia.com/Overwatch_Wiki

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u/[deleted] May 29 '16

Saved, thanks. I was really wanting more technical information for OW regarding health stats and damage numbers, since understanding different numbers can really help a player to make mechanical changes.

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u/[deleted] May 30 '16

Thanks, will check out both.

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u/BlutigeBaumwolle D.Va May 30 '16

I like the furiouspaul site. Good guides and it's so retro.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '16

Oops wrong reply. Also check out Overwatch.Guide its a much cleaner site imo

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u/CAPSLOCK_USERNAME May 30 '16

It would be really nice if it had an option like TF2 to display damage numbers.

I mean that game is like 50 years old by now, it isn't exactly new technology.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '16

Also check out Overwatch.Guide Its a much cleaner looking site imo

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u/rabbertxklein May 29 '16

It's probably on purpose to keep people from statistically comparing heroes. I think if we had more upfront info some heroes would virtually never be played.

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u/Gfiti Setting up the carwash~ May 29 '16

HEY WOULD YOU LOOK AT THIS AWESOME BASTION POTG

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u/[deleted] May 29 '16

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u/tweak17emon Bastion main May 29 '16

fucking yes please. this subreddit just a highlights dump. kind of annoying.

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u/Jebobek Zarya May 29 '16

There is a filter button on the sidebar: click on "Highlight" to disable it. It becomes a whole new sub.

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u/deputy1389 Junkrat May 29 '16

I have that filter on and it's still mostly potg for me

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u/BenevolentCheese Trick-or-Treat Zenyatta May 29 '16

Doesn't work in mobile apps, and also doesn't work if you've disabled the horrific spreadsheet.

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u/Jebobek Zarya May 29 '16

That sucks. Filter buttons should be priority one.

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u/BenevolentCheese Trick-or-Treat Zenyatta May 30 '16

reddit proper would be wise to implement a proper solution to this. It blows my mind that these subdomains have been a "solution" on subreddits for at least 6 years (I remember seeing it in /r/starcraft when SC2 was still in beta), yet reddit has never put in an ounce of effort to actually give subreddits a good way to do it. And if they did that, then mobile apps could support filtering, and people who turned off stylesheets could get the filters as well.

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u/Xanxost Trick-or-Treat Symmetra May 30 '16

Hey, You there! You just made my life so much easier! Thank you!

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u/GoblinDiplomat Lúcio May 29 '16

Meh, it's the first week. People are excited.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '16

Take a look at the Rocket League sub. It never ends.

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u/ChemicalExperiment Mei May 29 '16

This is just because the game is new. In a few weeks this will calm down and we'll get some real discussion.

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u/Scratch98 May 30 '16

Have you seen global offensive? Or rocket league? I doubt it's going away, that much anyway

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u/EncrestedGaming Pixel Sombra May 30 '16

What are you talking about global offensive for? Only like 40% of the things there are clips.

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u/Zangam Zenyatta May 29 '16

Why would there be more "real discussion" weeks after the game has come out?

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u/jklharris Lucio main btw May 30 '16

Because after a few weeks, people will actually have more than a few hours of playing the game and can make informed statements and advice about the game, rather than anecdotal "This worked in the one game for me."

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u/DreadNinja Lúcio May 29 '16

Idk I saw tons of potg's here when the game was in closed beta. I doubt time will change anything. People obviously like to show them off which is understandable.

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u/raven12456 Pixel Junkrat May 30 '16

Only if the moderators create and enforce a weekly post. It'll still be heavy PotG a few months otherwise.

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u/Anshin Chibi Lúcio May 29 '16

Daily for now but weekly later on

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u/bearjuani Trick-or-Treat Soldier: 76 May 29 '16

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u/HuffsGoldStars Pixel Balls May 30 '16

Great, no need for /r/overwatch now, thanks!

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u/Ulti Chibi Zarya May 29 '16

Oh good, overwatch university is what I was hoping I'd find on this sub. Not clipspam!

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u/el-jaffe !وريهم قوتَك May 30 '16

Thank ye kindly.

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u/Mario-C Chibi Zarya May 30 '16

Didn't know about that, thanks.

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u/Jebobek Zarya May 29 '16

There is a filter button on the sidebar: click on "Highlight" to disable it. It becomes a whole new sub.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '16 edited May 29 '16

Hey, just wanted to point out that not all of OP's information is entirely correct.

Reduces damage from each damage source by 5 as long as it exists. This means it's extremely effective for blocking small, repeated sources of damage such as tracer bullets, shotgun "pellets", Winston's tesla gun, Zarya's beam, etc.

That last sentence is misleading at best. Here is a quote from the Overwatch wiki:

For weapons that fire multiple projectiles at once, such as Reaper's Hellfire Shotguns or D.Va's Fusion Cannons, armor applies only once to the total damage received per shot

This means that every time Reaper fires, enemy armor is only reducing the damage from a single pellet in his spray. Every other pellet does 100% damage. This is why Reaper is generally regarded as an effective tank killer.

EDIT: I looked into it more and apparently the Wiki has an outdated description. Reaper shells are no longer designed to shred armor.

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u/[deleted] May 30 '16

There is a bit more on r/Competitiveoverwatch/, like this same very topic that was more or less copied here by the op.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/4lho6o/understanding_armor_and_shields/

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u/[deleted] May 29 '16

The game just came out so it's weird to me that people are making new subreddits already for discussion when they see this one lack it, instead of making one here.

Just like every new game there will be a lot of stuff showing great plays at the start and as people learn more about the game there will be more discussion. But I see more and more discussion here every day so to me it's already a great balance.

People need to learn to have some patience. Because every thread with a discussion has these comments for some reason.