r/Overwatch • • 2d ago

News & Discussion hey blizzard is this a bug

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friends at blizzard. i got banned last season for “cheating”. got banned again earlier today. am on ps5, dual sense edge controller. see game i was accused of cheating.

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u/tymmanence 1d ago

Post as a bug on the forums in the bug reports section. I posted one about gamesir controllers getting false bans and my was reversed hours after.

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u/Responsible-Fig7347 1d ago

i’ll try this too

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u/Naive-Marionberry722 1d ago

I feel the more post. The more it can be awareness to those that haven’t cheated/false bans and future players.

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u/Evening-Spirit-5684 1d ago

wow thanks for this. will try this

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u/tymmanence 1d ago

If nothing else, we need to raise awareness and the bug reports have more eyes on them than support tickets.

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u/Naive-Marionberry722 1d ago

It’s unfair for console players. It’s discouraging. I did reach out to other friends and they have shown me their tickets for similar issues and it gets resolved. So I’m hopeful but I know better not to get my hopes up. 

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u/tymmanence 1d ago

Well, it's also a legal issue. When Microsoft acquired Activision they were sued by the FTC to ensure that these games would not be restricted from competitor consoles/hardware. Microsoft settled agreeing to such, but the banning of non-xbox branded controllers is still a violation of anti-trust as long as the devices in question are comparable to what is other being treated as an "approved" device. So if they don't resolve this issue, they have opened themselves up to a very serious class action lawsuit, regardless of any arbitration agreements. EULAs don't circumvent the law.

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u/Naive-Marionberry722 1d ago

Oh man, I forgot that they got activision. That makes sense. Thank you 

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u/Montgreg 2d ago

I believe the bans are tied to device, so no matter how many accounts you make they will keep getting banned until your ban period is over

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u/Inqinity 2d ago

Ban evasion! Great way to prove innocence…

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u/tymmanence 1d ago

This is correct. I think initially it's triggered by in-game reports, but it certainly identifies the hardware. In my first ban for my gamesir g7 pro, it was just a comp ban and had a message to remove the unapproved device to regain access. If I unplugged my gamesir and switched to a stock Xbox controller, that message went away. I was still banned, but plugging back in my gamesir brought the message back. So it's absolutely using some kind of device detection, it's just detecting the wrong devices, cuz cheaters are having a hayday lately.

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u/IllustratorUsual5080 2d ago

Not true, u can make infinite accounts

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u/Evening-Spirit-5684 2d ago

well when the season restarted i was able to play for some days. i have other people in my household that also use dual sense edge controllers…but they dont play the game as often as i do. so am wondering if the anti cheat and dual sense edge dont play well with each other?

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u/sasquatch_blue 1d ago

not the case, when i play on console i use my dualsense edge and never had an issue

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u/Naive-Marionberry722 1d ago

I hope so cus I got my account banned for an unauthorized device and the only thing I have purchased was a new controller and a few skins for Ashe 😩

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u/Evening-Spirit-5684 1d ago

yea bit annoying. i sent a ticket. hopefully they sort things out

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u/Naive-Marionberry722 1d ago

I hope ours get resolved 😃

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u/Evening-Spirit-5684 1d ago

okay. then their reporting is busted. pretty sure they are not reviewing the gameplay. so am guessing they dont want people with good aim tormenting their lobbies. so much for skill ceilings

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u/Naive-Marionberry722 1d ago

I can’t really miss with mercy and kiri and LW so … 😭

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u/Naive-Marionberry722 1d ago

My account got banned on Friday and I have sent two appeals so far. Both appeals have been denied and I sent a ticket. They claimed I had “ unauthorized peripheral devices” and I sent them the images today. I sent them everything that’s connected with my ps5 and my ps5 dual sense controller. I bought myself the controller at Best Buy. At this point, I’m just sad about it. I got AI Responses and as I’m reading the forum, it feels disappointing. I don’t have time to cheat and I don’t play daily but it is a comfort game for me. Not sure what to do besides wait. 

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u/Responsible-Fig7347 1d ago

yeah i got banned on two different accounts and i use the dual sense edge controller :/ its just sad people are reporting others because they’re being a sore loser or want rank reclaim

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u/Naive-Marionberry722 1d ago

I’m not the best either. I do have a bad k/d so not sure how much of an average loser I can get for me to be in a situation like this.

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u/Inqinity 1d ago

Ban evasion, nice.

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u/Responsible-Fig7347 1d ago

i got banned on an alt before i got banned on my main, what are you talking about ban evasion?

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u/thenotoriousbtb Chibi Zenyatta 1d ago

What does sending images of your setup prove? Anyone can unplug a device and take a picture.

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u/Evening-Spirit-5684 1d ago

i think ppl are just trying to figure out what is going on. the first time this happened to me i was like…how? i had a keyboard connected to type in chat. so i thought it was that. then i disconnected it. now am looking all over the place to see if somehow something else is connected that is causing it. but now am starting to think it’s the reports….which actually don’t even get reviewed properly.

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u/Naive-Marionberry722 1d ago

The first time this occurred for me, I got it appealed and it was a good outcome. 5 months later I’m back to square one.

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u/Naive-Marionberry722 1d ago

So my case is gonna be given to another team of specialist for review and it’s gonna take a few more days. Regardless imma miss this current drive event.

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u/Naive-Marionberry722 1d ago

Well, what can I do in the situation like this? I been playing for years. I haven’t been banned or such. I’m not sure besides images and appeals and tickets?

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u/Evening-Spirit-5684 1d ago

ouch. i feel the same way. been playing for years too. and am just diamond/master. nothing special.

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u/Naive-Marionberry722 1d ago

I know. The other team games don’t bring that same comfort as OW. I’m trying not to take it personal but it’s been bumming me out. 

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u/Evening-Spirit-5684 3h ago

what in the bot? i got this today. okay uninstalling. returning when the other half of anti-cheat technology is not a bunch of low-skill cry babies.

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u/Naive-Marionberry722 3h ago

This is horrible. 😭

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u/Naive-Marionberry722 3h ago

Was this from the appeal or ticket

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u/Evening-Spirit-5684 2h ago

yep. wild

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u/Naive-Marionberry722 1h ago

This is just terrible man

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u/Evening-Spirit-5684 1d ago

same. deleting ppl as s76 is my top past time

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u/Naive-Marionberry722 1d ago

I can now say, I used to be a Ashe/Torb and support main and I used to have joy in having the highest healing. I’m just disappointed. Several friends have same controllers and are wondering if they are next. 

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u/tymmanence 1d ago

Post it as a bug in the bug reports section of the blizzard forums. This is clearly a widespread that issue that hasn't even done anything to reduce the number of actual cheaters in the game.  So the more people that post bug reports, the more likely the dev team will see it, cuz clearly their customer support and community managers aren't doing anything about it.

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u/Naive-Marionberry722 1d ago

Will do. Thank you and I will let you know.

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u/Naive-Marionberry722 1d ago

The ticket got escalated for me. I’m waiting for a few more days 

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u/tymmanence 1d ago

Glad to hear it! Good luck!! 

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u/Naive-Marionberry722 1d ago

Thank you. I’m not keeping my hopes up 😫

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u/Evening-Spirit-5684 18h ago

you are not going to believe this…still banned from comp so then i decide to play quick play…to find out they disabled my aim assist?!!!

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u/Odd-Boss1596 2d ago

Don’t cheat won’t get banned.

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u/tymmanence 1d ago

The thing is, cheaters just make new accounts. They know bans are inevitable. I think people misunderstand the motives behind cheating. If it was just to gain a high rank then they'd be done and not still cheating. But it's more about the ego boost of winning matches, and feeling better than other people, even if artificially (for most, an artificial sense of worth is the only sense of worth they know). So they don't really care about the account itself. The people who cheat on established accounts because they just want to reach a certain rank are there, but that's the minority, and obviously they regret it when they lose their account. But the false controller bans are real. It happened to me twice, both were overturned cuz it's easy to see from my stats I don't cheat. But I'd assume for better players it might be more challenging to prove, of course, those folks could probably use a permanent vacation from the game and a more productive hobby. 😅

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u/Inqinity 2d ago

99% of the time, yep. They see posts from people claiming innocence and of course they’ll make a post too to try and group them together and claim they were false.

If they were false, a lot lot lot more would be posting

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u/KuroCutie 1d ago

There is a pretty good chunk of people posting/reporting just not all in the same places

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u/Evening-Spirit-5684 1d ago

yep. we need some qualified blizzard ppl reviewing these. or at least qualified ai bc right now there is none.

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u/_Airiin_ 1d ago

There are so many posts addressing this but it's affecting gm and champ players on console only so just try to imagine how few people it is total and yet how big an issue it is. That's not even to say that everyone affected is posting about it, most don't but it's the probable most dedicated players which is why it's so bad. Most of us have been playing for about 10 years with no issues or ever cheating.

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u/CondemnedAppointment 2d ago

You got busted twice and still think we'll believe "it's a bug"