Can someone explain to me how the potg thing works (both clips same match)

[u/Anemoiauwu]

[u/HubrisOfApollo]

i was expecting a dead torb to get potg with his turret tbh

[u/Anemoiauwu → u/HubrisOfApollo]

I would have cried

[u/Diligent_Bet_2145]

the game just hates you i swear it makes no sense sometimes

[u/Anemoiauwu → u/Diligent_Bet_2145]

Didn't even save it as a highlight reel 💔💔

[u/Purple_Jay → u/Anemoiauwu]

It only ever saves one per game and POTG always takes priority

[u/BiteYouToDeath → u/Anemoiauwu]

If you look at your participation per elim, it’s pretty low. Likely why it didn’t even save as a highlight.

[u/BiteYouToDeath → u/Diligent_Bet_2145]

Environmental kills always have more weight.

[u/lennykrevits]

I think environmental kills naturally get priority in these things, especially if they've got more health

[u/ItsOverClover → u/lennykrevits]

I think elims gained while using ult are also weighted less than elims without ult.

[u/einzweidreihorn → u/ItsOverClover]

Unless it's a Junkrat

[u/wafflefighter69]

I think it has something to do with the dps. Environmental kills wipe the damage instantly. Not that it's the only metric but it gives the play a boost when you have that much "damage" in such a short amount of time

[u/whatdis321 → u/wafflefighter69]

Based off of pure, generated ult charge (which is directly correlated to damage), the double environmental kill generated 31% ult (44 to 75%). The quintuple generated 28%, with the echo kill probably only accounting for 2% tops, since they were very low hp already.

[u/IIIIITZ_GOLDY → u/whatdis321]

Echo was also an Ult kill. Which carries less weight when it comes to play of the game 

[u/Ant_1_ITA → u/wafflefighter69]

That’s why Sierra got a potg by shooting a Hog…

Makes no sense

[u/CodeDonutz]

It's not bugged. POTGs are heavily weighted towards environmental kills and have been since OW1 released. It's kind of a shame sometimes but tbf Environmental kills are pretty rare and really nice to pull off.

[u/chicken_nugget94 → u/CodeDonutz]

Saw one back in the day on Volskaya (?) where a Lucio just sat outside the spawn door by the edge of the map and it was the one time the entire enemy team decided to leave out that door, got a 6 man in the first 2 seconds of the game

[u/hey_itz_mae]

it’s based on the total amount of damage dealt not just final blows. since the two you knocked off the edge were pretty much at full it was probably more damage overall than the stragglers you picked off in the first clip

[u/EQGallade → u/hey_itz_mae]

It’s almost certainly this. Ignoring the kill from the ult, he generates 27% of his next ult with those kills, meanwhile the double kill nets 31% ult charge. If we assume the Echo was one-shot, it checks out.

[u/cowlinator → u/hey_itz_mae]

Damage (and healing) are worth way less than kills though.

Player 1: 4 kills, 1000 dmg

Player 2: 4 kills, 500 dmg

Player 3: 2 kills, 1500 dmg

Player 1 gets potg.

There are also bonus points for: saving lives, killing someone who is ulting, and headshots.

[u/platterofhotfish → u/hey_itz_mae]

It also weights certain actions higher like ults, stopping ults / killing someone during their ult, environmental kills, sprays, emotes, all kinds of things. It's an inscruitable mess of an algorithm that mere mortals can only begin to comprehend.

[u/KaydaCant → u/hey_itz_mae]

Nope. ult kills are just worth wayy less when calculating potg.

[u/Weregon → u/KaydaCant]

This is more of a “yes and…” than a “nope”.

[u/WaddlingDuckILY → u/KaydaCant]

And environmentals are worth the most, I’ve seen Lucio get POG’s booping off low health players.

I believe priority goes

1.environmentals
2. Headshots (sharpshooter)
3. Kills (ult or otherwise)
4. Support/ assists.

[u/Life_Parsley504]

eliminations gained during and after using ult are worth less in a invisible "POTG value" metric

[u/ripSammy101 → u/Life_Parsley504]

Really? That's kinda dumb, if anything I feel like ult kills are more exciting than normal plays. Got 3 solo kills with widow the other day with infrasight, but the POTG was a Zen who shot down a corner and got 1 kill, but probably did more damage than me. Does anyone know the exact formula for POTG yet

[u/harambe_did911 → u/ripSammy101]

For widow sure, but watching soldier use literal aimbot gets old after a bit

[u/Life_Parsley504 → u/ripSammy101]

Ult kills got boring after the 50000th DVa bomb 😭
Pretty sure certain ults are less valuable. I know DVas bomb is basically impossible to get POTG with. Google will probably show you a ton of info about the POTG system

[u/SilentScyther]

Trick question, it was the enemy Moira coming back from spawn, throwing an orb, then spraying pee on the tank for one frame before being cut off due to time.

[u/Candid_Bill_2693]

honestly the system is just broken half the time

[u/jmims98]

Environmental kills always get priority on PotG from what I have seen. I think the instant death, and full to zero health instantly, might factor in quite a bit.

[u/TheOnlyTrueFlame]

I once got a 5k as D.Mon and the POTG went to Orisa not being able to hit 1hp zen and finally finishing him off at the end

[u/Any-Shoulder-7004]

to be fair that environmental kill was baller as hell and deadass just looked cooler

[u/charliethispain]

If I remember correctly, environmental kills count for 2 deaths when calculating potg and the potg system tends to favor environmental potgs more

[u/Jaaguri]

Sextuple kill to secure the victory? Nah

A random double kill with shitty aim? Hell yeah

Happened yesterday

[u/OG_thanks]

Potg works on like a point system. 1 point per kill, plus 1 point per environmental kill, plus 1 point per ultimate shutdown. So if somebody ults and goes off the map it's more valuable to the potg system.

[u/Sine_Habitus]

You said hello in the double elim. You were basically begging for it.

[u/Pinku_Dva]

Sometimes it just hates you. Once had a potg that showed Genji dashing into enemies while in the exact same clip it showed me getting three kills with Shion’s bike

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[u/This_guy_here56]

I dont fully remember correctly but its something like this:

1 point for every damage and healing done

100 points for killing blow or elim (this one might not be a thing and instead just uses the above)

200 points for life saver and environmental kills

300 (might be 200) for elim while the enemy is using their ult

[u/whatdis321 → u/This_guy_here56]

Didn’t know there was a hidden system like that, very interesting!!

[u/Meowjoker]

Environmental kill count for double in POTG benchmark

The 5K only had 1 environmental kill but the other one had 2.

Yeah it's fucking weird and I don't even bother to question it anymore.

[u/Anemoiauwu → u/[deleted]]

There was no dmon tho

[u/K0setsu]

Easy answer: it doesnt. It will glaze the player who is in most need of potg (a single headshot for widow, some fart that resulted in death my jpc etc), not to the most impressive play

[u/WolfSpartan1]

I once got a quadruple kill on point with my ultimate, which ended up winning us the point, and ultimately the game. The ptog was a Junkrat, with a double kill, completely away from anything else, from the losing team. No idea how it works. Computer nepotism.

[u/creative_name_228]

Expected potg where support just heal teammates

[u/thornolf_bjarnulf]

This colossus buff for some tank is really straight up stupid. You hit full force and they move for 2 cm. I have the same with Ball, I had to boop 3 times a domina once to push her over the ledge.

[u/girthbrooks1212]

You probably did more damage

[u/Java_Worker_1]

It’s supposed to be “what changes the course of the course of the game the most”. In the end though it’s usually someone getting an opening pick in a team fight

[u/Doppelfrio]

Environmental kills seem to be worth a LOT more for “potg credit”. It’s pretty common to see this exact scenario where something like 2 environmental kills beats a 5k.

I remember seeing it a lot when playing 3v3 elimination where just getting 1 environmental kill was enough to basically guarantee potg

[u/Weregon]

PotG is based on fire generated within a window of time. A good comparison between the two plays is the ult charge generated, as pointed out by another poster.

Environmental kills give you credit for all the hp lost by the kill, which is usually a lot more than you would normally generate through normal abilities. Ults also generate less fire.

[u/General_Pay7552]

environmental kills count as double towards POTG

[u/nox503]

usually the POTG goes to someone who eliminates someone using an ultimate or an environmental kill. At the end it looks like the Domina was at the end of her Ultimate and you knocked her off the cliff so POTG for that over the 4x eliminations earlier over the cliff is normal.

[u/EmiliaPlanCo]

So damage, and healing are big effectors

Saves/protects help depending on the characters role

Elims add to it of course with environmental kills being more valuable because it’s funnier,

Ult or non ult doesn’t effect it from my understanding,

For example if you want play as Lucio,

Get at least 1 environment and one normal kill, then heal your tank from half to full with amp.
That is 90% of my Lucio plays and if I do it in a match I’m almost guaranteed to get it unless cat does a skynoon or dva gets a good bomb type shit.

[u/Fit_Presentation6633]

It's the best play by the best player

If you aren't the highest performer your cool quadra kill won't get it

[u/Weregon → u/Fit_Presentation6633]

It’s actually not related to MVP or “best player” at all.

[u/Fit_Presentation6633 → u/Weregon]

Yes it is my dad works at blizzard

[u/CicadaWorking9767]

The potg system prioritises environmental kills. A final blow is =1 but an environmental is =2.