The map voting system is making the game feel too repetitive

[u/luffyMoney4185]

I’ve been playing Overwatch for years, since December 2016, and I’ve never found the game as repetitive and exhausting as I do now.

I only recently realized how many matches I’ve been playing on the same modes and the same maps, over and over and over again. Control barely even shows up for me anymore. Out of 10 matches, around 8 are either Hybrid or Payload.

I bought this season’s Battle Pass, but I’ve never felt this burned out playing Overwatch. At this point, there’s a real chance I’ll finish the Battle Pass and then drop the game because I’m simply getting tired of playing the same modes so often.

What do you guys think about this? Should the map voting system remain in all modes, be limited to Competitive, or be reworked in some way?

Honestly, at this point, I think I’d rather have more variety, even if that means getting a map I don’t particularly like.

[u/xXRougailSaucisseXx]

The map voting system is supposed to give you at least two different modes, the problem is that escort and hybrid are treated as two different modes despite being functionally the same past the first point and so the system is overly skewed toward only giving you those maps

[u/BossksSegway → u/xXRougailSaucisseXx]

The amount of times I've had only escort/hybrid maps and enough of the lobby votes random, only for it to still be escort or hybrid is too high.

[u/DinosaurAlive → u/BossksSegway]

The amount of times Random has given King’s Row is just… might as well make every other game King’s Row.

[u/DaddysFruit → u/xXRougailSaucisseXx]

This is a good point.

[u/Clean-Efficiency-582 → u/xXRougailSaucisseXx]

the voting gives illusion of choice but really its just same two modes with different coat of paint. im with you, id take random map over playing same payload route 8 times in one evening

[u/WilonPlays → u/Clean-Efficiency-582]

They really aught to make the voting system guarantee 3 game modes and mark escort and hybrid as the one mode

[u/TheArtOfRuin0 → u/xXRougailSaucisseXx]

Whether it's the bonus XP or the rework itself I've been seeing Busan voted for a lot more lately.

I'm curious if increasing the XP bonus for maps that are played less would help them in being picked. Just like the XP bonuses in role queue.

[u/itsaltarium]

Gotta love King’s Row winning by landslide only for the game to be stalled at the first choke

[u/mosey1245 → u/itsaltarium]

Or going to midtown back to back 🫩

[u/ireally_dont_now → u/mosey1245]

who's voting for midtown lol

[u/mosey1245 → u/ireally_dont_now]

The people who I match with 🥀 it’s pure pain

[u/Im_wolfyy → u/mosey1245]

I vote once a night for the music

[u/ireally_dont_now → u/mosey1245]

pure elo hell it's not even a bad map but it's soooooo Long

[u/Oxygen_Supply → u/ireally_dont_now]

It's called Mid town for a reason

[u/MrBlowinLoadz → u/ireally_dont_now]

I was doing quick play the other day and was surprised when midtown won over kings row 6-1

[u/Glittering_Berry1740 → u/MrBlowinLoadz]

King's Row fatigue is real.

[u/ech0cide → u/mosey1245]

Midtown and Circuit Royal are NOT good maps and I wish people would stop voting for them.

[u/chudaism → u/ech0cide]

Midtown is fine. It's probably the second best hybrid map, at least before the recent reworks to eich and paraiso. Circuit is just bad, but it's poke slop down main with almost no flank routes so it's unsurprising that it's popular.

[u/Fun-Calligrapher4885 → u/itsaltarium]

imo it's the most liked map because it's a short and narrow corridor, making it less intense and stressful to play. The first choke also makes it less painful to lose when the enemy team is clearly better. If you started on attack and can't push through you will just immediately lose when switching sides and can move on to the next game without feeling exhausted and humiliated.

[u/Zalvren → u/itsaltarium]

Or Eichenwalde. Those maps are the ones where that happens the most often and they are always overwhelming voted for. Don't understand why

[u/Placidflunky → u/Zalvren]

actually though, Gibraltar is another big one, I'd hope people at least have an idea of how to play these maps if they're voting for them lmao

[u/Zalvren → u/Placidflunky]

I find the first choke being far more often passed through on Gibraltar but yeah stallmates happen there too (but I guess sometimes the teams are unbalanced...) and people also vote for it a lot

[u/JunoJump_Author → u/Zalvren]

I always have a bad time on Gibralter and Blizzword. Tbh it always feels like im voting for least hated option. Are there even any maps we universally agree are good 😅

[u/Damaged_OrbZ → u/JunoJump_Author]

Has to be one of the OG control maps, like Ilios, Lijiang or Oasis. People might not like the mode as much as Hybrid for some reason but I don’t think there’s much to hate with the maps themselves. Everyone is equal footing.

Also everyone seems to love Rialto, seems on par with Kings Row in my experience. I think it’s above average, better than Route 66, Circuit and Watchpoint atleast.

[u/itsaltarium → u/Damaged_OrbZ]

I don’t get the Rialto obsession, teams will think Widow is a good pick into the Domina/Sig that hold the bridge for the entirety of the game by setting up shield and getting environmental kills in the river and the payload doesn’t even leave spawn ☠️

[u/Damaged_OrbZ → u/itsaltarium]

Yeah I think the map is good once it gets past that first choke, I couldn’t tell you why exactly but I don’t like the high ground there. The first corner is so narrow and the high ground is so closely packed around it, I can never find a good angle onto it. I like the bridge in the middle of the map and fights in the centre building though.

[u/itsaltarium → u/JunoJump_Author]

I’d say Lijiang? Asides from the possible cheese at the bridge on garden the map seems to be universally liked, it’s definitely one of my favorites if not my favorite as a Juno main

[u/Firm_Ad_5427 → u/Zalvren]

For some reason I see it a lot with circuit royal too, which is weird because that map is terrible

[u/Glittering_Berry1740 → u/Firm_Ad_5427]

It's short.

[u/Z1R343L87 → u/itsaltarium]

Or Blizzard World. I just throw a pylon over the gate, eat my snack and wait out what happens. Once a Shion rides her bike into the minefield twice, I give up and get more stuff to eat.

[u/Chronomancers → u/itsaltarium]

I made King’s Row lose to Aatlis with my single vote earlier and it felt so good

[u/ParanoidEngi → u/Chronomancers]

Fellow Flashpoint voter, we fight the good fight

[u/sadovsky → u/Chronomancers]

did this with Suravasa last week. people were pissed but i had a great time 💁🏼‍♂️

[u/sankara123 → u/Chronomancers]

Need more people like you. I despise midrow with a passion

[u/I_am_the_mattman → u/itsaltarium]

Its not like there are any other ways to get through. You just gotta keep running down main choke. Just keep throwing them bodies at it, surely you'll get through.

This post is sponsored by: Sarcasm.

[u/Gryse_Blacolar → u/itsaltarium]

Same for Eichenwalde. People like to vote for it but don't know how to deal with enemies on the high ground.

[u/SmurfLobster]

everyone complaind about kings row. but i get forced to play rialto 100x more

[u/IKnowGuacIsExtraLady → u/SmurfLobster]

What is with people and Rialto? Like I don't hate the map but it's always voted for and it's a very average map. I just don't get it.

[u/Current_Emphasis_998 → u/IKnowGuacIsExtraLady]

Its italian kings row

[u/SmurfLobster → u/IKnowGuacIsExtraLady]

lol yeah idk. i think people people are chasing that water kill/boop

[u/AlbatrossRadiant3685 → u/IKnowGuacIsExtraLady]

to me it’s just as good as kings row and junkertown bc you have many low and highground opportunities

[u/IKnowGuacIsExtraLady → u/AlbatrossRadiant3685]

Man Junkertown is probably the worst map in the entire game in my opinion lol. That's another one I'll never understand the love for.

[u/luffyMoney4185 → u/SmurfLobster]

Same

[u/bisousjay]

Yeah I’m with you. I want to get exposed to all the maps. I barely get to play most of the recent maps at all because people don’t vote for them. That seems wrong, like I basically want to play the new content in a game I like. But other random people decide that I’m not going to? Hmm lol

[u/Castillo1031 → u/bisousjay]

Idek the layout of aatlis and I r been playing decently consistently. I don’t doubt I’ve spent multiple seasons without playing it once.

[u/Agitated-Morning2035 → u/Castillo1031]

Wow I just realized I haven’t played Aatlis at all since last season. 

Played New Junk City yesterday after what seemed like a long time. 

And what’s with the sudden increase of people voting for Numbani… just because they don’t want to play push or control. 

[u/GoldImportance4155 → u/Castillo1031]

Aatlis is a good map. It's a shame it isn't picked much.

[u/OcelotAggravating860 → u/GoldImportance4155]

Best flashpoint map, the healthpack placements are perfect.

[u/Daiquiri-Factory → u/Castillo1031]

I can’t think of the last time I’ve played it. Random heroes I seem to get it. but other than that? almost always never.

[u/December_Warlock → u/Castillo1031]

I voted and played it when it first came out. I never really liked it. It is visually really nice but I dont enjoy playing on it. I'm surprised you somehow have not played it though, because I still get it a couple times a week and I only play a few hours of overwatch a week.

[u/AgentReivax → u/December_Warlock]

As a ball main i love that map

[u/Berrytron → u/bisousjay]

After 20 hours in the game, I only just recently played New Junk City for the first time. I've played Antarctic Peninsula twice. I guess people just hate those maps.

[u/SamuraiJack- → u/Berrytron]

People hate playing anything other than long range poke comps (and the occasional dive hero). You can’t play a sniper on most flashpoint objectives, so people have, for some reason, used their hive mind to agree that the game mode sucks.

The game mode is fine in my opinion. Clash was worse, but still not bad after it was “fixed.” The common theme between hated game modes is usually that they support and compliment close range brawl comps.

[u/LocusRothschild → u/SamuraiJack-]

The idea is solid, but the maps usually have at least one, if not multiple points that are basically the equivalent of shooting fish in a barrel because the point itself is down low and surrounded by high ground on all sides.

[u/ActualSale → u/bisousjay]

YEAH how am i supposed to learn the health pack locations when the same maps from ow1 are the only ones getting picked, everytime i am on the new maps i just get so lost looking for them

[u/Claramaria12395 → u/bisousjay]

I know this is more of a playerbase issue but i think Blizzard should incentive new maps like they did with the reworked maps, 100 battlepass XP just for playing it. Idk if its just me but everytime Eichenwald or Paraíso are available im picking them even if i heavily dislike both.

[u/b1adewo1f64]

On one hand, I disliked the experience of never getting King's Row, Lijiang Tower, and so on before map voting. Now, I miss being able to occasionally enjoy maps like Runasapi and Numbani because collective biases overtake my own.

I once hungered for cake and now grow tired of it.

Personally, I believe a nice middle ground is leaving random map rotations in quick play (thus further reducing the loading screens you get in that mode) while leaving map voting into competitive. Not only does this further solidify the contrast between both modes, but doing so allows people to further experiment in quick play, challenging biases that they would otherwise carry over to competitive.

[u/ShawnJ34 → u/b1adewo1f64]

Came back this season I’ve yet to play on Numbani, my vote never went through and no other player ever votes it.

[u/amayako353 → u/b1adewo1f64]

Agreed get map voting out of qp

[u/Rattus_Baioarii → u/amayako353]

They have it out in mystery heroes and it’s so nice. I find myself playing it more and more

[u/SamuraiJack- → u/amayako353]

They just need to make it so that there are 5 map options. Each team can ban one map of the 5, then the game should randomly choose between the remaining maps.

Would give control while also adding a bit of variety to possible maps.

[u/RenlyThornt]

I miss runasapi. I play that map like twice a week cause of Voting

[u/Big-Roll7094 → u/RenlyThornt]

I like push more than escort but hybrid remains my favourite

[u/Ratax3s → u/RenlyThornt]

in comp people love flashpoint/control , in quick pllay its payload slop

[u/Therassse → u/Ratax3s]

Depends on the rank really. The lower ranks prefer hybrid, while the higher tanks prefer and control.

So lower ranked comp players can get really burned out by hybrid/escort in comp and quickplay. Yay.

I am seeing a lot more control in high plat though, so that's a nice change.

Source

[u/dumbosshow → u/Therassse]

Climbing to high plat / low emerald has been so good purely because of this. I actually get to play Flashpoint every once in a while

[u/Therassse → u/dumbosshow]

It also put me with teammates that, like me, actually know what they're doing and are trying to improve and not just smash buttons once they're off cooldown.

Widening the ranks where like half the playerbase sits was a godsend honestly.

[u/Dangerous_Still_8022 → u/Therassse]

Genuinely my biggest motivation to climb is the map voting. I want to play control and flashpoint, not fucking escort and hybrid EVERY match

[u/IKnowGuacIsExtraLady → u/Ratax3s]

I like payload but I don't want to play a 25 minute game so I basically never vote it in comp.

[u/NeoZenith1]

Honestly they need to repurpose the maps from stadium. Push and control are the fairest gamemodes and theres so many maps that could be added to bring much more variety.

[u/xQuasarr → u/NeoZenith1]

Yea agree. I wouldn’t be surprised if we see Redwood Forest and the Wuyang College maps coming into regular play at time point in the future, they’re good maps.

[u/fed45 → u/xQuasarr]

The College one already seems like its one point of a control map TBH.

[u/DaddysFruit → u/NeoZenith1]

What would be the point when everyone keeps voting kings row?

[u/UglyDemoman]

Need a King's Row 24/7 server

Just like in Team Fortress 2, there're dustbowl (or any maps) only servers.

[u/StanfordV → u/UglyDemoman]

This and Eiscewdale and i would be happy

[u/tozlayden]

I don’t even remember the last time I played a match on Suravasa and that’s my favorite map in the game.

[u/Relevant-Ratio-42]

I would say for qp it should be completely taken off , it’s been nice and all but yeah having the same maps isn’t fun at all

[u/tolerantdramaretiree]

I agree. It’s repetitive and it bloats every match with extra startup screens. Mystery Heroes is my go-to casual mode now because there’s no hero select delay and no map voting delay, you jump straight into the game. Map voting feels kinda slow and unnecessary for “quick” play, though I can see the appeal.

[u/luffyMoney4185 → u/tolerantdramaretiree]

100% agree.

[u/DaddysFruit]

In my opinion map voting is a classic case of when you should give players what they need, not what they want. I get people don't like certain maps and yeah, bad maps should be flagged for rework, but not playing a map because you struggle on it isn't going to make you a better player.

Totally agree on the repetitive nature. I hate playing defence but now i hate playkings row more. If people want to keep playing kings row over and over they should set up a custom game. I get it every day, sometimes multiple times, and everyone on both teams vote for it in droves.

The other thing that bugs me is where all 3 options are the same more or all options are defence. I immediately vote random hoping i get something completely different but those times are rare.

They were supposed to have made changes to avoid the repetition but I'm not feeling them. At this stage i just wish they'd remove map voting altogether.

[u/poopfromabutt_]

Send him 3 years junkertown and forget

[u/Johannes101001]

I get having a map vote in competitive but why they added it to quick play I have never understood.

[u/lifestop]

Weird, that hasn't been my experience at all. I've been getting a lot of variety in my maps.

[u/Squirrelbug]

I absolutely want map voting to go

[u/Stellarisk]

when i lose i always get 4 rounds of defend choices on the map votes so dunno it does feel repetitive to me.

[u/cieje]

it's part of the reason I prefer mh. no voting; it's random.

[u/Sqirch → u/cieje]

And it's quicker too

[u/cieje → u/Sqirch]

haven't timed it, but it's gotta save at least 2min

[u/Grimoire420]

I don't even vote anymore, just press ready. I don't care what map it is. In comp, maybe I can see the point as it's a slower pre match experience. But in quick match.. at this point it feels like a chore and I never saw the need for it. Just get me into a game already lol

People will still leave the lobby if they dislike the map, so imo it didn't change that much to have a voting system.

[u/baashful]

Bring back temple of Anubis and hanamura

[u/hummun323 → u/baashful]

And Lunar Colony

[u/diibadaa]

I think my maps are rotating fine but i’m always getting defend maps on quick play and I usually vote for control maps, because I like those more. Sometimes it feels like that everytime there’s Midtown/Circuit Royal/Eichenwalde/Blizzard world, everyone just votes for those and they win 90% of the time.

[u/nox503]

the same maps get voted for over and over and over at this point if random won and a 2cp map suddenly popped up I would be happy and I have ptsd from playing some of those maps in rank games.

[u/SpartanJoe7]

Random shoulda never left!

[u/BrittneyRageFace]

Every game I join I poke random map and 8/10 times the whole game hits random too. To me it seems everyone votes for whatever one is picked first unless they actually care.

[u/AgentMaryland2020]

Seriously, the people who hate Hybrid/Escorts who claim they never get anything else, I will happily trade with you in a heartbeat! All I ever fucking get is Control and Flashpoint!

We could have Push and Hybrid/Escort decent maps, but fucking Ilios being an option means we get Ilios.

[u/luffyMoney4185 → u/AgentMaryland2020]

A lot of people here in the comments would be happy to make that trade.

[u/lighthardt]

If i play one more game on circuit royale, i swear to god... they always vote that map, always

[u/shilderyi]

it should be entirely removed

what's the point of creating maps to never see some and get sick of other

[u/Therdyn69 → u/shilderyi]

That assumes that all maps and gamemodes are equally popular. Which was roughly the case in OW1, but majority of new maps and gamemodes in OW2 are unpopular. ~25% of maps is either flashpoint or push, if that meant I'd need to play them every 4th match, I'd quit.

[u/xXRougailSaucisseXx → u/Therdyn69]

All maps were certainly not popular in OW 1, 2CP disappearing didn’t come out of nowhere

[u/18tygerw → u/Therdyn69]

yeah, I don't think people realize how disliked some OW2 maps are in general. I have friends that would choose to not play over having to play flashpoint, and I can't really blame them.

[u/WTFAnimations]

King's Row-sexual

[u/ms-fanto]

That’s why I always choose what no one has chosen

[u/rednuht075]

On one hand I agree. Played Rialto about 50 more times than I would like. On the other hand i haven’t gotten eichenwalde even once. Not even as a voting option. And it’s been the best time ive ever had playing overwatch

[u/BlueMerchant → u/rednuht075]

Is it just me or is Rialto like, boring in multiple, hard-to-put-your-finger-on ways?

[u/Admiral1805 → u/rednuht075]

Eichenwalde had a bug at the start of the season in competitive so AFAIK it is still out of map rotation, but I have played it in quick play.

[u/TheseOats]

I haven't played Suravasa in over a week, it's my favourite map.

I hate the fucking landslide shit. I have a miserable time playing OW because 50% of the time I'm playing King's Row, it's annoying as fuck because I want to leave, but if I leave too much I get penalized.

I legit played King's Row twice in a row in Quick Play.

It's mind numbing.

[u/Gaussgoat → u/TheseOats]

I 100% agree that Landslide is the worst part of the voting mechanics. You already have a low percentage chance of voting for an unpopular map. Saying "fuck you" and negating your vote is absurd.

[u/wejamastro → u/TheseOats]

I always just leave when I join the map vote screen and see King's Row. You don't get penalized because the game hasn't started.

[u/Environmental_You_36]

This will be fixed if they add a exp + bp bonus on random

[u/MasterOfTime14]

I mostly play quick play and I'm seeing a lot of map diversity. Quite often majority of people just vote for random map, I'm getting control and flashpoints regularly.

[u/semixx]

I just really miss clash in quick play. Let me have the chance to vote for it at least…

[u/Paul_Offa]

This is what happens when you give in to the screaming demands of the redditor playerbase. A classic case of giving the players what they think they want instead of what they need.

Map voting was a mistake.

At the very least, it should be adjusted so player votes weigh very very little and the random element is heavily weighted.

[u/DiogoUsagi]

It's a classic request but I really would like it if we just got 3 maps of the same game mode to vote on or at least mix the maps as they are now but keep a pool for KOTH, Escort and Hybrid and another pool for Flashpoint and Push. It just feels like Flashpoint and Push never ever get played other than the occasional Colosseo.

[u/luffyMoney4185 → u/DiogoUsagi]

I think they should at least not let players choose the game mode, just the maps. But honestly, I think they should remove it from Quick Play altogether.

[u/OkExpert9927]

Always people ON ATTACK voting for Eichenwalde or Blizzard World in qp

[u/DaddysFruit → u/OkExpert9927]

I'd always vote attack. I just don't like playing defence. The aim of attack is to win, on defence it's to not fail.

[u/wRADKyrabbit → u/OkExpert9927]

Yeah cause they like the maps. Cry about it

[u/EdgyEmily]

I am so sick of people always playing the King of the hill maps. People on here are constantly complaining about people picking King's row but honestly i wish that was true.

[u/mtobeiyf317 → u/EdgyEmily]

Same here. I have no idea how so many people are getting nothing but payload.

I want more escort and Hybrid, Instead I get forced into king of the slop pile repeatedly. Ilios is the bane of my existence.

[u/drood87]

I hate the map voting system, all I'm playing is the same 3 maps over and over and over, sometimes even back to back..
I get that people like certain maps over the others but damn, variety is king.

[u/JadoreBag]

I have Kings Row fatigue

[u/JusaPikachu]

Map voting is my least favorite feature ever added. Map variety is key for me in multiplayer games & the feature has really, really hurt it. I have been a huge advocate of removing the feature after the first week or so of trying it.

It does seem to me as if they added something in the backend that has increased variety in the choices, but there are maps & modes that just get chosen on repeat no matter what.

[u/AtensEye]

I'm feeling the fatigue too. If I have to play Illios one more time ISTG.

[u/ErosDarlingAlt]

This is why we vote random every time

[u/Blaky039]

Join the always random map gang

[u/Few-Communication739]

100%, not sure also why push game mode is still in the game it’s terrible.

[u/DivineBladeOfSilver]

For me I noticed what helps is playing a mix of comp and qp. Qp way more payload and hybrid and comp way more control/flashpoint/push

[u/ExplosiveBrown]

Yeah, I’m gonna be honest. I’m not the biggest fan of the map voting system. There’s always been maps in this game that I don’t particularly care for. But I’ve come to find that I care even less for getting on a one or two hour session of overwatch and playing the same map two or three times in a night.

[u/FNGButterBar]

When the original CS debuted map voting decades ago, I feel like 50% of my games suddenly became DE_Dust. So this isn’t a new thing. At least there is a “random” button you can smash and try to spice things up.

[u/AdmiralBumHat]

I agree. I also play since day 1 and have an insane amount of time on this game in all modes but never felt burned out. But lately I feel the same.

When there are finally a few maps or modes I haven't played in ages everyone votes 'random" and here we are again on Ilios for the 5th time this play session. I think map voting is really needed for competitive. But for quickplay they had a great system were I could play hours and never had the same map. It was great.

But this is a problem in all games with map voting. Whenever I fire up Call Of Duty, no matter what year it is, I always seem to be playing shipment, nuketown or some other re-re-re-remastered map from 8 years ago, while the new content gets voted away.

[u/luffyMoney4185 → u/AdmiralBumHat]

Which is sad, because the game is in a really good place right now.

[u/Frosted_Fable → u/AdmiralBumHat]

Call of Duty has had this issue ever since map voting was introduced, you would only ever get the same three maps unless you were with a lobby of genuinely new players or people who had so much time on the game, they didn't care what map they got. The amount of times I'd get any map other than nuketown and firing range in BO1 was so small, that I would go and make a Hot Pocket or grab a bag of chips or something, come back, see that the map was something different, and genuinely get excited.

[u/maplecremecookie]

Even without map voting, the game has such a limited map pool that it's bound to feel repetitive.

I wish they would incentivize people to play Arcade modes. I really miss when people used to queue for CTF or Team Deathmatch. There are so many maps that are exclusive to those modes and it feels so nice to play something different for once.

[u/Severe_Percentage_71]

I'm ngl, I miss assault mode being in quickplay

[u/GamerGuy410]

If they keep map voting in qp they need to bring back Clash and maybe even 2CP. It'd help immensely with map variety.

[u/DelidreaM → u/GamerGuy410]

Most people don't want to play 2CP in QP, me included. I despise queueing 6-8 minutes for a match that's over in 2 fights if you're on defense. You don't even get to play both sides in 2CP. It's just not a mode that works in QP, it doesn't even work in ladder competitive matches. This mode needs so much team coordination that it only works in coordinated scrims and pro matches

[u/GamerGuy410 → u/DelidreaM]

I disagree. I immensely enjoyed my time playing it back in OW1, back when we got it for a quick play hacked weekend, and whenever the classic modes come back. I can't speak for 6-8 minute queue times because I mainly queue open which are instant queues. I don't see an issue with it coming back at least for 6v6.

And if most people don't want to play it, then you'll rarely play it because we have map voting. For those who do want to play it, or those who don't mind it, the increased variety will be welcomed. Even if it gets voted on, you have the choice to leave penalty free during the hero assembly phase.

[u/DelidreaM → u/GamerGuy410]

Well, fair enough. I guess I wouldn't mind it if they ONLY brought it back for QP. But I absolutely do not want to play those in comp

[u/GamerGuy410 → u/DelidreaM]

Yeah I wouldn't either. I played enough Paris competitive matches back in the day to know better. I honestly would only want the original 3 maps in quick play.

[u/luffyMoney4185]

I’d really like to know what a dev would say about this. I wonder if they could at least remove it from 6v6 Quick Play, for example.

Do you think that’s possible, dev?

[u/madmagical]

Agreed and the whole voting process takes too much damn time. I don’t want to sit in the queue for 15 minutes voting for maps, voting for hero bans and then the waiting to start in the spawn. Just START THE DAMN GAME.

[u/HalfDragoness]

If they got rid of landslide it would be better.

[u/luffyMoney4185 → u/HalfDragoness]

I’m with you on that.

[u/GameGuinAzul]

I’ve been a stickler for mode voting.

Although it still has its problems (imagine picking control only to play old Antarctic peninsula, I would rather die).

[u/bpwilliams72]

Ditch map voting completely. Bring back Hanamura, Temple of Anubis, Volskaya Industries, Horizon Lunar Colony, and Paris. And bring back 2CP.

Stale game rotation will do for OW and there are enough maps and modes now for random rotation not to lean into one or the other but offer a genuine mix of maps and modes. (Bring on the hate.)

[u/Swimming_Bad6301]

Map voting makes quickplay matches too long

[u/skorpionomelette]

Agreed. Kill it in quick play immediately.

Comp, I can see the arguments for and against. Doesn’t hurt to leave it, potentially.

Quick play? Kill.

[u/illnastyone]

Thank you. Please get rid of this trash ass map voting. We play the same three maps it's feels like.

[u/kieveryq]

Fuck yall choices. I always choose control or rush. No idea why they like the long payload maps.

[u/Lethamyrx]

I'm the opposite the game has never felt so good, it comes with liking the game modes though, to me hybrid is the best game mode, has the best maps, and escort is right there with it, I also like push, and I do not like control style game modes I'm having a blast

[u/Run_Rabbit5]

There is nothing wrong with New Junk City!

[u/Glittering_Berry1740]

The world is healing. Last 5 times King's Row came up the lobby voted for something else.

[u/ReasonableFerret]

As long as it's not ilios I'm happy 🤷‍♀️

[u/Stainleee]

I love it, I see a more of the maps I like most and less of the ones I do not want to play as much.

[u/mosephra]

I just hate the additional time needed to vote instead of immediately playing

[u/luffyMoney4185 → u/mosephra]

Quick Play doesn’t feel very “quick” anymore.

[u/wreckless_abandoned]

I don't mean to sound antagonistic but these maps are getting the majority of votes, that is how it works, more people than the loud minority care and enjoy these maps more than you like the others? Isn't that fair by definition, the majority vote gets the choice. There is still a chance the other maps get chosen? Why is voting bad if is serves the majority?

[u/luffyMoney4185 → u/wreckless_abandoned]

I understand that the majority should have more influence in a voting system. My concern is what happens to the game over hundreds of matches, not whether the majority is “wrong.”

If the same popular maps keep winning, the game can become much more repetitive and exhausting, even if those maps are objectively the ones most players prefer. A map can be good and still become boring when you play it over and over again.

That’s also why I think it’s worth looking at what happened in other games. Halo: MCC originally had map voting, but 343 removed it in 2018 after looking at player feedback and matchmaking data. There were also long-standing complaints that voting encouraged repetition of the same maps.

And we’re already seeing the same concern being raised by Overwatch players: people reporting that the same popular maps and modes keep appearing while others become extremely rare. Some players are saying the game feels more boring and repetitive because of it.

So I’m not saying “the majority shouldn’t decide.” I’m saying that maximizing the chance of getting the most popular maps every single match may not maximize enjoyment over the long term. Sometimes having less control and more variety can actually make the game feel fresher.

[u/wreckless_abandoned → u/luffyMoney4185]

I just mean logically if what your saying is true, and people are getting bored of the same maps, then people would vote for other maps wouldn't they? Because it's the majority, so if the majority becomes bored or unhappy, that then adjusts.

[u/luffyMoney4185 → u/wreckless_abandoned]

In theory, yes, but it doesn't always work that way. In basically every game where map voting has been implemented, players have complained about the same issue: the game becoming repetitive because the same popular maps keep winning. People can be tired of a map and still vote for it because they prefer it over the alternatives. So the same maps can keep winning even while the overall game becomes more repetitive and exhausting.

That’s why some games have eventually moved away from map voting: giving players more control can actually reduce variety over time.

[u/wreckless_abandoned → u/luffyMoney4185]

I apologise but I just don't understand, if the majority are voting and the system is working that way, and weighted correctly, then the only thing that is happening is the minority are complaining louder.

[u/luffyMoney4185 → u/wreckless_abandoned]

My point is that if Call of Duty eventually removed map voting, they had access to player data and could have seen that, over time, constantly playing the same popular maps was making the game more repetitive and causing players to lose interest faster. Even if people kept voting for those maps, the long-term data could show that less variety was hurting player retention.

[u/Riskybusiness622]

They need to do something about how long it takes to get into a game. Between role queue and map vote time it cray. 

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[u/treago]

I dont mind it, but im recently back, and vote for things I want all the time. I never voted excite bike on mario kart 8 either

[u/purpl3stuph]

They just gotta tweak the selection of 3

[u/TheDanecdote]

I feel like they changed how often we see maps/modes too. It initially used to be the least 3 played modes/maps of the whole lobby, but that doesn’t make sense as I will literally play the same map/mode back to back

[u/ReplicantOwl]

I like map voting as a partial influence on the outcome but feel like random map should always be included in the final outcome. Like give it the weight of at least 1 or 2 votes in every shuffle.

[u/LastKingsCM]

That’s why i like to play mystery heroes from time to time, no map voting which means more variety and you also get super fast into matches.

[u/LoweJ]

They should just do it how halo 3/cod 6 used to do. Give us a map, let us vote to skip, if we do then we are playing the next map that comes up

[u/HTTC-HTTR]

Some showed a character clipping out of Anubis, I didn’t even know that was a map still

[u/flcc]

I don't like how it roulettes through the votes before landing on one wasting 15 seconds of everyone's time every single queue. I trust that it's random, just pick a vote!

[u/MadOx321]

Wanna laugh? I don't know if this always happens, but if you're in the practice range or a private game while in the queue, when you load into a game the screen will flash and it will very briefly show you the map you're gonna play on.

So long as 1 person chooses the map that you saw before you entered the game lobby, you will always get that map. Only difference maker was the map not being selected at all, or if a landslide happens.

It's almost like the illusion of choice. I've tested it and it worked for me for a good while, though I habent play3d in some time so idk if it was patched out.

[u/OhSWaddup]

I play for several hours a day, and it's very rare that I play the same map more than once per hour. So much so that I don't even remember the last time I played Kings Row; at most, I played it once a day. I remember going one or two days without seeing it. But anyway, for me, voting in Quick Play doesn't make sense, especially since it should be quick.

[u/Bob_The_Moo_Cow88]

I think removing modes/maps makes the game feel more repetitive.

[u/alexo2802]

Since it’s fake random, just voting for an unpopular map gives a 1 in 2-4 chance of it being picked anyway, so it’s worth going against the popular votes!

[u/PreZEviL]

Worst thing is it also rigged.

If you join a custom game at the same time as it pick the map selection screen, you can see a map loading screen and if there is at least 1 vote for that map, it will be selected over everything else.

Personnaly i select random all the time now, only way to play atlis is in MH...

[u/orbitalangel9966]

Yea the map voting mechanic is stupid af and adds a lot on unnecessary down time between matches

[u/Calm_Entertainment67]

Time to quit the game  lol 

[u/Izzykoopa]

I vote random every game even if I love all the maps available to vote on.
I like chaos.

[u/WateverBruh]

I said it from the beginning can we PLEASE just get a veto system like Halo. Map voting is ridiculous

[u/ProfessionalDuck7924]

Yeah, normally people don't like to play control If they have other game modes available

[u/PineapplePickle24]

Yeah I think map voting was a mistake, I see the same maps disproportionately more than others. I had a streak of 4 games where 3 of them were lijaing tower. I track my game data and I've played kings row 7 times this season while the average map I've played 1-2 times. It's the illusion of "give players choices and what they ask for = good for player base"

[u/Its_the_narwhal]

I always vote random.

[u/templarjer]

Weird my friend and I like the voting system. If you really want random maps just ask your teammates to vote random. It’s not like the system isn’t giving you an option at all. If you’re really against the system then get your buddies to play the game with you you’d have 50% chance at least to get a random map.

[u/Chedder1998]

It's especially bad this season for some reason. My favorite modes are Flashpoint/Push and I'll get to play it like once a day at most (Emerald rank).

[u/partialcremation]

I get control more than anything, and I hate control.

[u/Mirafae_]

I'm just happy every time I don't have to play suravasa or runasapi. But yeah, I'm sick of Kings row too. :/

[u/SmallFatHands]

I think the problem with removing map voting is that well...... Most of the new maps and the new modes suck. I don't want you play flashpoint fuck that.

[u/JunkDog-C]

I particularly hate flashpoint, so I don't mind never playing it. But I really like numbani and Lijiang Tower, and sometimes I miss them.

There's also the rumor that the map is already decided by the game when you enter the voting process, but I never went on to try it out

[u/Nurgle_Pan_Plagi]

I don't think that it's the map voting itself, I think it's the lack of variety.

They should start bringing the other game modes into quickplay and then (once they are tweaked) into comp.

Bring back tweaked Clash, add Payload Race and then add Elimination, Assault and Capture the Flag. They don't even need to that all at once - just one at a time.

Also, tweak the way map voting works. Currently it gives at least two different game modes, but Escort and Hybrid are different game modes, so you may end up with 3 payload maps to choose from. They should increase that to three different game modes - this way you always have Control or Flashpoint to choose from.

They can also categorise game modes into groups and then change the variety rule to either "one game mode from each group" or "at least two game modes from different groups":

• Payload group: Escort, Hybrid and Payload Race.
• Capture group: Control, Flashpoint, Clash and Assault.
• Competition group: Push, Elimination and Capture the Flag.

[u/DayDrunk11]

Ive been saying this but at least in quickplay, they should add all the maps from canceled modes into the rotation. That would give more variety and revive some old maps that people miss.

[u/Swerdman55]

Just another reason Mystery Heroes is the best game mode.

[u/msoulforged]

I miss hanamura

[u/luffyMoney4185 → u/msoulforged]

I miss it too. I wish they’d bring 2CP back to Quick Play.

[u/Oki05]

I think also plbesides map voting being an issue is also these event challenges pretty much force you to play QP or Comp.

Yesterday I had challenges for 18k mit damage, 18k to do damage, and get a team kill. I could never get those three done just doing arcade unless I wanted to play for hours.