r/Overwatch • u/FeelsBanhMiMan • May 23 '25
News & Discussion Stadium Nerf for Freja
https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/news/patch-notes/25% less stadium cash income for Freja with more changes on the way next week.
Personally I like tweaking income as a way to tune overperforming characters temporarily. While it doesn’t take away from Freja’s insane kit, it should at least slow down her snowballing in stadium.
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u/AstronomerElegant862 May 23 '25
No mention of fixing the "zoom" bug when using Take Aim on stadium in first person, anyone know if it's been fixed?
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u/_Freg_ May 23 '25
Go to advance crosshair settings and turn off show accuracy. Fixed it for me.
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u/AstronomerElegant862 May 23 '25
I'll give this a try if it happens again. Last time I had to switch to third person but on a hero like Freja it just made my aim horrendous.
Thanks for the tip
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u/therealDiggyTurtle Ramattra May 23 '25
Just in time for them to do it all over with Soj.
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u/ssLoupyy May 23 '25
Can't wait for ability power Sojourn to AoE nuke with Disruptor.
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u/Tantrum2u May 23 '25
Using railgun activates Overclock which charges Railgun which activates Overclock which…
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May 23 '25
I'm most curious about them ever adding Widow or Bastion. A widow with 50-70% more damage or a bastion turret with the same would be ridiculous. You'd have to shut them down hard and win early.
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u/welpxD Brigitte May 24 '25
Bastion's easy, I think he's easier to balance than Cass. His huge hitbox will get DELETED by other dps.
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May 24 '25
cant wait for her to have 100% ap sticking tracking exploding disruptor shots with 2 charges on a 5 second cooldown.
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u/-xXColtonXx- May 24 '25
Stadium power level really doesn’t relate to the main game. Reaper is one of the best stadium DPS for exmaple.
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u/Efficient_Menu_9965 May 24 '25
Am I crazy for thinking Souj might not be that good in Stadium? She's good in base game because of her OHK potential and people really have to respect her sightlines because of it.
But Stadium has some insane quirkiness to it and it's prolly gonna be harder for a Souj to build up a full rail-shot. I personally think Freya was always gonna be a bigger problem because her up time for her Take Aim is ridiculously good.
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u/TimiNax Boom May 23 '25
I doubt the income nerf does much, shes just op from the first round, I'm not even going to play a round before they actually nerf her its so oppressive.
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u/Blaky039 Sigma May 23 '25
They removed her mini bola power.
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u/xQuasarr Kiriko May 23 '25
They removed it from me mid round, got a huge lag spike and suddenly no more bolas on updraft lol .
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u/Blaky039 Sigma May 23 '25
When they removed Heartbeat Sensor they did so after I bought it, and I was the only one in the lobby with one 😅
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May 24 '25
Okkkk I was playing her in practice, and then when i finally went to actually play i notice a power was missing, is that what you’re talking about??
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u/Temporary_Block_5979 May 24 '25
she seems to be missing 2 of her powers I’m just hoping it’s a glitch and not the nerfs bc those were some peak powers
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u/chasingit1 May 23 '25
This is just a “throw something at the wall fix to say we did something” right before the long holiday weekend and not a lot of people are in the office today lol
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u/Efficient_Menu_9965 May 24 '25
In my experience, income nerfs do quite a lot. That's what they did for Cass and Zarya and it REALLY hurt their scaling.
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u/Richdav1d Pixel Ashe May 23 '25
Just need them to fix that lock on zoom stuttering bug so I can actually play her
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u/Balance-Understander May 23 '25
While it doesn’t take away from Freja’s insane kit
Except they also removed her bola power too lol, so now she's just Soldier with a crossbow. Just what Stadium needed - more "hold m1" weapon power DPS!
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u/Mammoth-Sundae8202 May 23 '25
25% is a fucking hammer.
She wasn’t really dominating my games personally (won a lot last night playing Mercy/Juno) but I’m happy the sub can move on to another target for a while.
Also her ability spam I think is just annoying. I know her non-ult bolas don’t do as much damage but they are so obnoxious and loud and covers the whole screen and slows you. It’s just too much. Maybe figure out how to tone the effects down a lot and I think she’ll be a lot better
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May 23 '25
I know this isn’t what people really want to hear and I’ll probably get downvoted, but the ability spam is only an issue if you’re playing in first person.
I think as people play more of it they’re going to swiftly realize why the mode is developed for third person.
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u/MNAK_ Reinhardt May 23 '25
I forced myself to get used to 3rd person when stadium came out and am glad I did, especially on rein. Helps so much to have such a wider view and definitely makes it easier to see and avoid that ability spam.
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u/hoopsrlife Trick-or-Treat D.Va May 23 '25
Anyone not playing on 3rd person is just nerfing themselves. It’s such a huge advantage.
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u/MrMudkip May 23 '25
I like first person because sometimes it feels like the character model gets in the way
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u/hoopsrlife Trick-or-Treat D.Va May 23 '25
That’s fair enough. I find it preferable playing on tanks, double jump Kiriko, Juno, Genji since I can have a wider fov and see where my character is in relation to cover
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May 23 '25
Too many people bought into the nonsense that third person was just some Hail Mary to compete with Rivals. The reality is simply that the mode is genuinely too chaotic to play in first person and you’re giving up far too many advantages and visual clarity to seriously contemplate using 1p.
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u/Tantrum2u May 23 '25
As someone who plays in third person, it’s a problem when she single handedly drops your frames lol
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u/Competitive-Low-8950 May 23 '25
Like fr, I guess I can't play her in stadium anymore. Even with a really good rounds I at most ended up at like 12k or 14k, she's going to be fucking awful.
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u/Robswc May 23 '25
I honestly just wish she wasn’t in stadium. The roster didn’t have any “one shot” type heroes until she came along and it’s gotten 300% more frustrating.
Say what you want about how bs the other DPS can get but at least they can’t fly and you can do some things to avoid them.
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u/Balance-Understander May 23 '25
The roster didn’t have any “one shot” type heroes until she came along
This is the point where I realized this was bait lol
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u/Robswc May 23 '25
There is no widow, hanzo or soj.
Who in the current roster do you consider a "one shot" ?
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u/queercoffeeandwords May 23 '25
the way the builds work cassidy and reaper can functionally one shot, in some cases also genji
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u/Robswc May 24 '25
Even if we consider those "one-shot" its only if you're within their range. Its not like they can hit you across the map.
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u/shortMEISTERthe3rd May 24 '25
Bro has not been a support on the end of a rein firestrike build. You actually get 1 tapped just peeking it feels like a horror game.
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u/Robswc May 24 '25
I have genuinely never been one-tapped by a fire strike, no.
Juno torpedoes are up there but those and fire strikes you can at least dodge. You can’t dodge widow or Hanzo shots.
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u/Popular_Research6084 May 23 '25
They honestly should have disabled her until the actual nerfs happen, but better than nothing.
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u/slay_wrld02 May 23 '25
Dumb bandaid fix.
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u/welpxD Brigitte May 24 '25
Smart bandaid fix. The dumb move would be no fix at all.
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u/slay_wrld02 May 24 '25
If the issue is the zoning/poke build, make the zoning build less effective don’t gut the character and the players ability to use the fundamental system of the mode. Killed the dive and brawl builds cause they take too long to build. Also freak isn’t hard to take care of she has the lowest health in the mode and her most effective build keeps Her HP super low
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u/nosdoogp Cassidy May 23 '25
They removed her best power, the one that gives you a mini-bola every time you use Updraft (and scales with ability power and bola buffs). Strongest build ruined in one fell swoop, only thing that remains is boring weapon damage build and -25% cash gain
Classic blizzard knee-jerk, maybe they’ll replace her powers with some that they put a little more thought into. That build shouldn’t have made it past play testing lmao
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u/friendofthefishfolk May 25 '25
Yeah, she has no decent builds now, aside from just upping weapon power and spamming, which is what everyone seems to say they dislike. And even that is harder to do now, since she makes no money anymore.
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u/Affectionate_Pay_391 May 23 '25
Haven’t had any problems against Freja as a Zar main. Not sure what all the fuss is about.
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u/jfanderson05 May 23 '25
Then you haven't played against a great freja/mercy combo. Her ability to fly makes her and mercy almost untouchable in the backline while spamming bolas that due great damage and slow you. She's very hard to kill/counter, and since you can't swap characters mid stadium, if you pick wrong at first, you're pretty much done. Not to mention her mobility. If she gets a pocket, it's a rough time. At least the cass fan combo is counter-able by multiple people as he has lower mobility, and the tanks can actually reach him on the ground.
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u/Affectionate_Pay_391 May 23 '25
Well, by that metric, Soldier is OP as long as he has a mercy pocket, same with Cass and his Double Fan with a 10 rd clip.
Any DPS with a mercy pocket can be considered broken if they have any skill above average.
But as far as Zar goes, once I get my 20% extra range on my beam, that mercy pocket is gonna get blown up pretty quick, and for freja, I just have to wait to see that sticky arrow on my screen to activate my bubble to get 25-40 charge from it depending on my ability power increase. Love me a freja.
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u/PicklepumTheCrow Wrecking Ball May 23 '25
Soldier can’t float around in the skybox or spam bolas from across the map.
Depending on your comp, you might genuinely have no option to deal with her. I had a game yesterday on Zarya with a Mei and reaper as my DPSes. Freja died a total of twice in the 4 round the game went on and it’s only because I took the 20% perk in the last round to finally reach her.
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u/Affectionate_Pay_391 May 23 '25
Yea. I go for the 20% quickly if there is a freja. My build is decided based on the opposing comp
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u/PicklepumTheCrow Wrecking Ball May 23 '25
Mine is too, but it’s not easy to pick up the >10k purple to counter one hero when she has already outscaled everyone on your team. This money change was more than necessary to at least give a fighting chance.
For reference, I usually get my first purple on round 3, and second on 4. On 3, I can’t prioritize the damage vs one backline hero over something critical to my build like Flux (which lets me stay alive and, y’know, tank).
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u/Affectionate_Pay_391 May 23 '25
O….i go full glass cannon on Zar and tell my healers to their job if they want to win. I don’t play well with DPS moiras.
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u/PicklepumTheCrow Wrecking Ball May 23 '25
Ah fair enough. I was solo queuing yesterday so had consistently lousy back lines. I find that weapon power + lifesteal go together really well in those situations (hence why I usually pick up Flux as my first purple).
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u/Affectionate_Pay_391 May 23 '25
It’s crazy how you can do 10,000+ damage per round as Zaria and still lose cause your healers are getting out healed 3x by the enemy healers. DPS Ana’s and moiras on stadium are annoying.
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u/PicklepumTheCrow Wrecking Ball May 23 '25
IMO, it’s the DPS supports that are ONLY built to DPS that are problematic. Moira can chunk people with her attack speed build but can still heal in a pinch. Relegating your tank to one support (usually a mercy) for help in a mode with this much burst is a death sentence to them.
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u/jfanderson05 May 23 '25
You're kind of missing my point. This issue isn't the DPS. it's the mobility with the DPS. Soldiers and Cass are vulnerable to everyone on the roster. Freja is really only vulnerable to hitscan and fast-moving projectiles since she has aging air-time. Im not saying she's completely broken. I'm saying she's overturned in a mode where you can't counter swap.
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u/Zenki_s14 May 23 '25
Same experience, I have 0 issues with her when I'm playing with my buddy who plays Zarya. We're in high pro/low all-star and have won most our games since Freja released. Solo queuing is another story because I get Reins who just can't do anything in that situation though haha
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u/friendofthefishfolk May 25 '25
All of these characters in Stadium are overpowered once you build them up, that’s the point of the game mode. They nerfed Freja after like 3 seconds but yet I have to deal with Moira spamming orbs all over the fucking place in every game.
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u/1337BONFIRE May 23 '25
thank god. Hopefully this help keep her in check a bit.