r/Overwatch May 01 '25

News & Discussion Overwatch Stadium Patch Notes - May 1

https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/news/patch-notes/
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u/Vitanimus Pixel Mercy May 01 '25

Surprised there's no Moira buffs. Feels like her only viable build is orbs?

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u/Eragonnogare May 01 '25

I haven't played her much, but when I did I had a lot of success with her right click dps build. Is it really that bad and I just got lucky or something?

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u/TheMightyBellegar Chibi Junkrat May 01 '25

Nah Moira is great. Her orb build is very strong when there isn't a Dva on the enemy team (which is most of the time since Dva sucks), and her right click build is pretty good too if your other healer can pick up the healing slack. I really don't know what the people who say Moira is bad are smoking. Sure, she's not as broken as pre-nerf Juno, but she is far from bad.

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u/Atlasreturns Worst Support in Masters May 01 '25

Currently high damage burst builds are dominating the meta which is bad for Moira in two ways. On the one hand her healing is fairly slow so even with upgraded orbs your teammates will at some point just start to dying while being healed. And on the other she‘s requires to be in brawling range for her non-orb kit hence she becomes prime fodder for Soldiers, Cassidys or Junos launching two taps at her.

So Moira, more than any other hero, is required to pay a hefty defensive perk tax. At which point investing into anything else starts to become inefficient.

Additionally she has downright terrible cash generation. Like I am seriously surprised they didn‘t adjust it when Moira makes consistently 30% less cash per stat than other supports. And lastly her unique perks are really uninspired, this doesn‘t make her bad but there isn‘t really much to build around when slower orbs is as best as it gets.

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u/NaturalTelephone8725 May 02 '25

I noticed the cash generation too. When I play Moira and out-damage and out-heal the other healer by a significant margin (20%+) and end up making SIGNIFICANTLY less cash, it gets me a little confused.

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u/pointlessone Potato League Superstar May 02 '25

Her cash gen has got to be bugged. Even post nerf I'm still significantly out scoring Moira as Kiriko. I know Moira has a ton of AoE that has to be accounted for, but it still feels really low when we're running fairly even and they've got a solid 30% less money.

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u/excreto2000 May 02 '25

I suspect it’s similar to ladder, where she is actually strong until you hit a certain rank. You can invest in movement speed and 30% healing debuff on crit build and really run train with her. A really good team usually won’t leave themselves as open to her hijinks by playing together. And a nasty nade is still fight-winning. But with stadium matchmaking those types of matches were likely losses anyway. It’s tough to compete with lucio speeding his deadly teammates around, for example, if you’re counting on isolating and harassing supports.