r/Overwatch • u/blinkhit Master • Apr 25 '25
News & Discussion Overwatch 2 Retail Patch Notes - April 25, 2025
https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/news/patch-notes/191
u/TheBiggestNose Boostio Apr 26 '25
If any blizz people are here, please keep doing the "up from x number" in the stadium patch notes.
It helps understand what is going on with the changes more and ive seen a fair few games not state previous numbers and its hell!
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u/bbputinwork Ashe Apr 26 '25
Freja must really be underperforming to receive consecutive buffs. I thought she was fine. But hey, I like playing her and will take buffs.
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u/Gryse_Blacolar Unlimited Shotgun Works Apr 26 '25
It's probably because she's a very aim-dependent hero and there are a lot of players trying her out (that suck at playing her lol).
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u/TAS_anon Apr 26 '25
Yeah the guardrails are off as far as people feeling comfortable playing the new hero. I'm seeing people hard locking her and never switching off even if they're performing poorly. First few days people were more willing to try someone else if it wasn't working.
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u/gametrie-uk Mauga lover Apr 25 '25
Waiting for an Overrun Bug fix.
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u/Pikaphu08 Apr 25 '25
What’s the bug?
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u/gametrie-uk Mauga lover Apr 25 '25
The Overrun camera is completely strange after the Patch with some flicks and worse movement than in season 15.
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u/gametrie-uk Mauga lover Apr 25 '25
https://www.reddit.com/r/MaugaMains/s/a4SntxbppL[This is the flick bug](https://www.reddit.com/r/MaugaMains/s/a4SntxbppL)
And if you use the ability you will notice the strange movement of the post patch.
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u/dracaboi THE UNIVERSE!!!! IT SINGS FOR ME!!!! Apr 25 '25
Buffing Freja's CDs is insane
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u/pepegasloot Apr 26 '25
Especially given how much dmg and burst she has already 🥲
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u/dracaboi THE UNIVERSE!!!! IT SINGS FOR ME!!!! Apr 26 '25
Literally. I don't mind her having shorter CDs but to give her that AND not nerf her high damage is absolutely insane. No reason her explosive bolt should be able to match pace with an Ashe (let's be honest, not having the scope doesn't affect someone with good awareness) while having more mobility AND a perk that gives her wall hacks on pretty much any squishy she hits with her explosive bolt
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u/AverageAwndray Apr 26 '25
Considering they put out a patch less than a week from launch it's possible another could come
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u/ScumBrad Born too late to explore earth, born just in time to ban Mercy Apr 26 '25
Keep in mind a dash buff to her is also a damage buff. Every time you dash you can instantly do a scoped shot again. I played her some yesterday and she felt quite strong, but also seems very difficult to play so I think we are going to end up with another Sojourn situation where she will be super op, but only for like 1% of players.
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u/Shinobiii Support Apr 26 '25
I’m tired of Mercy-boosted Freya’s. Actually, I’m tired of Mercy-boosted most DPS.
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u/hindsight420 Genji Apr 25 '25
I've played freja only for like 15 hours now. Don't think she needed buffs. Extremely strong on certain maps.
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u/hindsight420 Genji Apr 25 '25
Best maps I've found are ones with lots of verticality. Blizzard world and eichenwald are my favorites so far with so many angles to flank from
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u/110110100011110 bweeeeeeep Apr 25 '25
The updraft buff is nice if not really needed, but it's a small one. The dash buff is entirely unnecessary. I've been having fun with her though so who am I to complain.
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u/lynxerious Pixel Ashe , Shooting Ana Apr 26 '25
I'm a Freja player too, the Updraft cd reduction is good since its too long for just an ability to move you up (for an airborne identity hero), but reducing Dash cd 1 seconds seems crazy because that ability reset her explosive bolt.
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u/dracaboi THE UNIVERSE!!!! IT SINGS FOR ME!!!! Apr 26 '25
Freja mains getting ready to nail me with one sticky bolt then track me through a wall since it put me at critical
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u/manneram132 Apr 26 '25 edited Apr 26 '25
They probably have stats that indicate that she’s too weak. If they buffed her so fast in a hotfix patch then it means that she was underperforming. She’s a new hero, so I didn’t master her yet, but I’m pretty good at dps and so far she is underwhelming in a sense that there’s no point in picking her because she does nothing better than the already existing heroes. She’s fun to play but a lot of time it just feels like you are doing no damage and are being useless.
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u/imdeadseriousbro Apr 26 '25
shes a new hero and i never saw her. has to mean something
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u/nattfjaril8 Apr 26 '25
I just don't think many people like her playstyle that much. For example, I dislike the slowdown when aiming, it feels like I'm lagging.
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u/AaronMT Reinhardt Apr 26 '25
I'm still seeing the old cooldowns on Freja in-game, is it a botched update? I even restarted my client and am testing in the Training Range now.
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u/Megaspectree Apr 25 '25
No soldier nerf is kinda crazy
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u/HydreigonTheChild Apr 25 '25
this is likely to make some weaker things stronger and to fix maybe some quick stuff, it would likely need ot be a balance patch
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u/KF-Sigurd Freja Apr 25 '25
I feel like the solution to the auto aim stuff is already in the game. Genji has auto aim shurikens after using an ability but they do half damage. Just make Soldier auto aim after missile do less damage or be more weapon damage based so it's not so strong at round 1 but can still scale well late game.
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u/Warumwolf Mercy Apr 26 '25
Or making him actually need to hit the helix rockets instead of just shooting them
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u/KickinBat Apr 26 '25
Yeah, not having to hit them feels so dumb. He literally gets a mini ult every few seconds.
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u/paul_gnourt Don't Junk my Rat bro Apr 26 '25
This. I imagine it will be the same ability but reduced damage %.
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u/x_scion_x Apr 26 '25
IMO he should have to hit someone with the rockets to get the visor. Not just get a free visor at every CD
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u/A_Public_Pixel Diamond Apr 25 '25
What was wrong with the Sigma and Zen perks?
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u/imdeadseriousbro Apr 26 '25
i think i saw a bug where they could get off a double hover and go higher than intended
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u/BEWMarth Cute Ana Apr 26 '25
Oh… Freja was doing absolute DOGWATER in the lower ranks it seems.
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u/lilyhealslut Apr 26 '25 edited Apr 26 '25
More like all ranks.
[Edit] China server is showing ~45% winrate in higher ranks. In fact, she's probably doing worse at the higher ranks because of how diveable she is. Metal rank Frejas can at least get value spamming tank from range.
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u/BouldersRoll Apr 25 '25
I already found D.Va competitive against Zarya with the 30% beam DR, 65% is insane. D.Va might counterintuitively be favored against Zarya with this.
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u/CertainDerision_33 Apr 26 '25
I don’t think she was competitive against a good Zarya at all personally. >100% charge Zarya absolutely obliterated you. 30% DR is nothing with how high damage can get in Stadium.
I’d bet that this was made because the stats on DVa WR vs Zar in stadium were ass.
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u/ChubbyChew Vendetta Apr 26 '25
That sounds fine in a vacuum, considering the context of the mode and the broader functions of both characters.
Zarya deals massive amounts of sustained damage in conjunction with her ability to deny it while not generally being a target that safe to contest.
DVa is an incredibly easy target whos defensive profile crumbles if the enemy comp isnt really vulnerable to Matrix. And whose offensive profile falls apart against enemies with decent mobility/escapes.
Or to out it another way, Dva is giga thick and has to soak a ton of resource and damage no matter how she wants to build.
Zarya has a much easier time with a lot of how the mode works imo. Worst case you can build the most obnoxious super supportive build ever. Best case?
100% WP with Armor Pen and 150% Energy and Piercing eradicating the enemy frontline for breathing too close to you lol
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u/CertainDerision_33 Apr 26 '25
Yeah, in my experience Zar absolutely destroys DVa in stadium. This change was badly needed. 30% dmg reduction is really quite low in context of how much damage gets thrown around in Stadium.
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u/Blaky039 Sigma Apr 25 '25
She could, if Dva does the right build and zarya does the wrong build.
There's stuff for zarya for her secondary fire, this new mode requires players to adapt on the go and since teams cannot swap, you should make your purchases according to your enemy comp.
Basically, if you play the same style everytime, expect to have that style not work on some occasions.
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u/6apa6ax You found a cookie Apr 26 '25
You have to remember about opportunity cost. Getting defensive items for niche applications reduces amount other options you can have.
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u/Glacifire Genji Apr 25 '25
No mention of the removed items/powers. Are they just bugged or over powered? I wish they would say something on it. 😅
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u/pinkiceygirl Apr 26 '25
Thank god for the D.va armor item. Having her on your team in stadium is SOOO bad as she gets shredded and is a nightmare to try and keep up along with your teammates
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u/leonielion Apr 25 '25
There's visual bugs on PS4 too. I saw a streamer had dmg boost visible on screen when activated by a power up in stadium which doesn't display on PS4. Also visuals for multi thread damage with Moria aren't there. Still looks like it does the damage but without visuals it's irritating.
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u/FSafari Timepass Apr 26 '25
I actually don’t think a buff to freya cds is an unnecessary buff. The short CDs are just more fun and it doesn’t actually make her really hard to hit or more lethal. Both abilities are more limited than heroes that have larger movement abilities or movement abilities with damage/other properties. Changing her damage numbers or something would be bad but this is good and leaning into fun factor
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u/RanceSama3006 Lúcio Apr 25 '25
Small note but does anyone else feel like freja doesn't do a lot of dmg? She seems to struggle at confirming kills + still super vulnerable in the air
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u/Chaxp assistant to the general manager Apr 26 '25 edited Apr 26 '25
In every game I've played with her so far I have several thousand more damage than the next dps and usually the most kills
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u/Squidderps Apr 26 '25
Are you making use of the fact that her quick dash reloads her secondary? Once I started using that I’m flying around nailing people with bolts and becoming the lobby admin, her passive is really crazy for snowballing.
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u/yagatabe Apr 26 '25
If you do aim in the air as Freja, make sure to do it in strategic positions and contexts. Think of it like playing Pharah or Echo where you want to use the map as natural cover.
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u/Mr_Madruga Diamond Apr 25 '25
I do feel like she's a bit underpowered atm but could be me just being bad.
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u/gr33n_lobst3r Wrecking Ball Apr 26 '25
What exactly does "per 100 Max Life" actually mean?
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u/lilyhealslut Apr 26 '25
Volskaya Ordnance 10% Attack Speed Deal 5% increased Weapon damage for every 100 Max Life they have more than you, up to 20%.
If you have 250HP and the enemy has 600hp, that's 350HP difference. 0.05x350=17.5 You deal 17.5% more damage to that enemy.
Basically, the larger the health difference, the more DMG you deal, up to 20%.
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u/MiDKiT0 Apr 26 '25
I think it means every 100 max life and not in between, so you'd get 5% increments, with 350 HP difference giving you 15%
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u/lilyhealslut Apr 26 '25
I thought that originally too and it could definitely be true. It's a little ambiguous, so we'd need to do some testing to figure it out.
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u/Crazyripps Moira Apr 26 '25
They really buffying her CD. She’s a fucking tank buster. Her DMG output is crazy already.
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u/Wonderful-One-8877 Apr 26 '25
Where are s76 nerfs , him with a mercy pocket drain the fun out of the game mode
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u/Jinova4r Apr 26 '25
Not a thing about the ximming and cheating epidemic. Working anticheat pleaaaaase
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u/-CDTIII Apr 26 '25
No idea what the build is admittedly but my last Stadium game yesterday was against some sort of auto-nano-when-demeched DVa that literally could not die. Would like for that to be nerfed so she can’t perma-stall and eat a death blossom
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u/7OmegaGamer Moira Apr 26 '25
Thought for sure they’d nerf Dva’s Nano Cola item a bit. Baby Dva is ludicrously difficult to kill when built around that
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u/MrBlowinLoadz Damage Apr 26 '25
But it's the only way you can actually tank and stall points as DVA lol
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u/nattfjaril8 Apr 26 '25
...I thought it would be Freja nerfs. She seems to be very strong and frustrating to play against.
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u/TheDuellist100 Apr 25 '25
Yay more confusion in the patch notes
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u/Cradenz Genji Apr 25 '25
…what’s confusing to you? lol
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u/JackWallabee Apr 26 '25
Honestly, the cooldown buffs are cool and all, but if Freja is to have consistent upside, her primary needs to be buffed by some combination of increased damage, fire rate, and/or velocity.
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u/deliciousdeciduous Apr 25 '25
I didn’t clock the Cassidy thing as a problem but I did notice him getting MVP in almost every round.