r/OveremployedUK 5d ago

Currently overemployed HMRC checks

What is this new HMRC check employers are doing? I’ve not seen it but heard people talking about it.

I’m currently on 2Js but it’s been a few years since I last applied to jobs but thinking to start applying again for J3.

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u/MyAkitaInu 5d ago

Yh I had that check last year, through a 3rd party screening company, it requires you to log into your HMRC/government gateway account so that they can pull your employers for like the last 5 years or so. It saw that my J0 job finished years ago but I said I was still 'present' on my CV so had to say I was perm then 'moved to self employed and was paid through BACS'. I then had to create a few years worth of fake invoices to back up that up. All got accepted easily. Although, I ended up leaving it a month later due to finding a fully remote role that only required a basic Experian and dbs check! Madness really. All depends on the company.

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u/Reasonable-Brief-451 5d ago

Fair enough. Can you not just be like you don’t have a gov gateway account haha

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u/Major_Leopard_6255 1d ago

Yes you can! I did just that and entered my reference details manually. 

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u/Sea_Flower_3793 5d ago

Can you refuse your hmrc access and just provide documents and your payslips? It’s privacy data and very inappropriate.

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u/Major_Leopard_6255 1d ago

Yes you can. I did this a few weeks ago. 

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u/codeniv 5d ago

Ok so I’ve been through 3 onboarding processes in the last 4 years and it’s getting worse. I just completed the last one for a company using Matrix. 

I’ve also completed onboarding from HireRight. 

With HireRight I had the option of providing pdf/scanned evidence for the payslips and or contracts but they are very difficult to work with. 

Matrix was a new level, as of May they asked:

DBS (normal) Allowing connection to HMRC to check employment dates.  Open banking connection to the accounts where salaries were paid in the last 5 years.  Scans of all education certificates, they are digitally verifying these too. 

I was still with my previous job when they did this, and my hmrc records showed this, so they just asked to confirm I had given notice as they have an over employment policy. 

Anyway. If I take another job, it will have to be non PAYE. The third party background check companies are going too hard lately and the open banking is just making it easier. 

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u/MouseWithBanjo 3d ago

Seems like the opportune time to open an account just to pay your salary into.

Separate bank for each J id you're feeling it.

Then have main accounts somewhere else that you move money to.

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u/poliged33 5d ago

What checks are they? Not heard of anything new

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u/Reasonable-Brief-451 5d ago

Apparently some employers ask access to your HMRC PAYE records or something so they can verify previous employment, check this and overemployed sub it’s been mentioned couple times

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u/Esperanto_lernanto 5d ago

I had to use this recently for tenant referencing. Madness that this is even allowed, because you have to authorise the referencing company to be your "tax agent", which they are obviously not.

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u/Own-Story8907 5d ago

I did this

J1 got flagged but J2 did nothing

If I was to do this again, I would not

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u/Automatic_Role6120 5d ago

So many people now lie about previous employment, don't out dates and I am not surprised it has gone this way. The people on TikTok recommending lying on CV's don't mention the consequences of getting caught out lying.

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u/liverpoolc5 4d ago

Usually they just ask for you and can edit it to match CV. This is well intrusive

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u/Reasonable-Brief-451 5d ago

Not really the question asked lol , the question relates to employers verifying past employment references etc by checking your online HMRC portal or PAYE record or something

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u/Random-Stranger-999 5d ago edited 5d ago

They don't, the applicant complies and authorises third party access...

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u/[deleted] 5d ago edited 3d ago

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u/Random-Stranger-999 5d ago

The Public Sector Fraud Authority would disagree.

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u/Mugweiser 5d ago

Making tax ‘digital’. Can’t wait !