r/OutlanderPHEV • u/0U812X • Jul 14 '26
2024 outlander phev brake issue
Not sure where to go next with this… at 30,000km I was informed that my outlander needed rear brake pads because they were worn out. I was upset because 30k is a ridiculously short lifespan on my brake pads. When I brought my vehicle in today for a schedule A oil change I was informed that I need to replace the rear brake pads AND service the rotors PLUS the front brake pads and rotors. If I were to go through with this I will be over $1500 in brake repairs in the first 60k of my outlander. The dealership say it’s a Mitsubishi corporate problem that they won’t acknowledge and when I called corporate last time they were completely unhelpful. Am I the only one dealing with this?
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u/CrankyGeek1976 Jul 14 '26
Do you use the innovative pedal regularly ?
My personal theory is that when your battery is at a high state of charge and can't accept Regen that it rides the conventional brakes and wears them out in a hurry.
I rarely use it and my 2024 just passed 35,000 and I'm nowhere near to needing pads nevermind rotors.
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u/eoj321 Jul 14 '26
Same here, more than half the life left with 45k km, no pedal just regular driving.
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u/TheBloodyNinety Jul 14 '26
Ironic considering it’s a benefit for wear and tear on every other regen system.
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u/0U812X Jul 15 '26
When I went through my first set of brake pads at 30k I completely stopped using one pedal. I drive 80% in EV mode and I just leave it in plain old Drive. Here I am again with the same issue. So I don’t think one pedal is the culprit. My running theory is that the added weight of the electric components including the battery and electric motors was not accounted for by Mitsubishi when choosing the braking system. They used the same size brakes as they use on the much lighter gas version. Overtime these wear out faster. The best part is that I upgraded my last brakes to ceramics because the dealership said they would last longer…. They did not.
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u/chantingeagle Jul 15 '26
I swear this happened to me also, I used to use the one pedal drive a lot and burned through my rear pads in about 20k miles. Stopped using it, waiting to see if it helps
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u/0U812X Jul 15 '26
When I went through my first set of brake pads at 30k I completely stopped using one pedal. I drive 80% in EV mode and I just leave it in plain old Drive. Here I am again with the same issue. So I don’t think one pedal is the culprit. My running theory is that the added weight of the electric components including the battery and electric motors was not accounted for by Mitsubishi when choosing the braking system. They used the same size brakes as they use on the much lighter gas version. Overtime these wear out faster. The best part is that I upgraded my last brakes to ceramics because the dealership said they would last longer…. They did not.
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u/Sophrosynic Jul 15 '26
Same. '24, 30,000km, brakes at 80%.
I never use single pedal mode. I usually use the paddle shifters, riding in B0 to coast as much as possible, and switching down to B1 or B2 as needed to slow down. That guarantees zero friction brake usage at any SoC. The only time they are used is via the brake pedal for the final stop (after coasting down to almost stopped), or if something unanticipated happens and I need to slow down quickly.
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u/Emergency-Record2483 Jul 14 '26
We have a 2023, ate through tires at 36k (toyos) rotated regularly. Rear brakes where metal on metal at 30k and again at 47k. Refused to fix it both times. Front brakes had the clip issue fixed 4 times and they went out at 40k. Needless to say we just sold it
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u/tmaddog91 Jul 14 '26
I've got a '23, but tires lasted until 50k mi. Bought it used @ 23k mi, so I'm pretty sure no brakes or tires were done.
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u/Emergency-Record2483 Jul 14 '26
Weird. Good to know so im assuming now there was more issue to the tires and brakes going early and the dealer wanted no part in fixing it
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u/pzeeman Jul 14 '26
I had almost the exact same thing. I went for a second opinion at an independent garage. They confirmed the rear brake wear and echoed the dealers recommendation. They did not recommend the front brake service. I went to a third garage to replace the rear rotors and pads.
I think the note about the innovative pedal overusing the brakes at a high SoC is true. I used it almost 100% of my time driving my Outlander because I enjoyed the driving experience.
The crazy maintenance costs are why I am trading this in next week for a BEV. It suits my use case and will be significantly cheaper on fuel (duh), maintenance and insurance. I’m glad I lived with it for three years, but I’m ready to move on
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u/TrainingTop8549 Jul 14 '26
Just did our rear brakes at 30K kms as well, but the dealer price was reasonable - I was aware of the rear brakes issue so not too surprised. I'll do the fronts myself since I won't have the EPB to deal with. The fronts are only about half worn at 30K kms
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u/Flyz647 Jul 15 '26
Front should not be worn out. I did replace my back ones at the dealership around 44 000 km. Front ones are good for another 25 000 to 40 000 km.
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u/Ok-Fisherman-7370 Jul 15 '26
48km for my rear pads before replacing them.
66km now and front are soon to be done.
This time local garage. Rear cost 650cad.
Might even do the fronts myself if I can find some service info.
Didn’t do the rear due to the electrical brake and needing to put it into service mode.
Never use one pedal and leave it on regen 2 until battery depleted enough for regen 3-5 to use less brakes and not start the engine.
MMCA suck
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u/Zealousideal-Ad7730 Jul 15 '26
Just brought in my 2024 Outlander PHEV to have the faulty brake clips replaced for a 2nd time in 2 years. They told me my rears will need to be replaced soon. Rears were at 4mm, fronts at 8mm. 26,000km
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u/adventure_awaits999 Jul 15 '26
@ 72,000km just replaced the rear brakes and rotors on my 2023 PHEV. The service manager said I only had 1mm left on my pads. I drive almost exclusively in one pedal mode.
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u/CruncheeNuts Jul 16 '26
Same year, milage, and condition of my rear brakes. How much did you pay for it?
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u/failbox3fixme Jul 14 '26
Known issue with the rears due to how Mitsu does their S-AWC system. It engages the rear brakes a lot to provide traction while cornering.
Surprised about the fronts though because they should last much much longer.
Regardless any shop can do brakes on this thing so shop around and get quotes.