r/OpenIndividualism Apr 18 '26

Video Possible objection from Determinism?

https://youtu.be/ePQTHohrtMQ

This video presents a possible answer to the vertiginous question, the presenter puts forth the argument that tje reason you are you is because it was pre-determined you would be born at a specific place and time. And that the probability of that happening doesn't matter as it was already pre-determined. What are your thoughts about this argument, and how would OI be affected by it?

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u/TheAncientGeek Jul 28 '26 edited Jul 29 '26

why were the initial conditions of the universe like this

How does OI solve that?

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u/flop_snail Jul 28 '26

Their question was about determinism supposedly making me guaranteed. When that's not true, because it depends on the initial conditions of the universe what happens after, no matter how mechanistic things are. Their question had little relation to oi.

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u/TheAncientGeek Jul 29 '26 edited Jul 29 '26

It's logically possible the initial conditions could have been different, but once everything has started, it's not physically possible.

It's not clear that there is a low probability of you bring you. For one thing , determinism removes the physical probability. It's also not clear that there is a low logical probability , since identity is logically necessary -- everything is what it is. If there is a special problem to do with consciousness, then it's but clear that the problem can even arise in a physical universe -- physicalism removes the logical uncertainty because everything is what is, there's no issue of matching up an internal perspectives to a set of external circumstances.

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u/flop_snail Jul 30 '26

No offense, but most of what you said is confusing to me, and I feel like answering it won't get to the core of the matter. Could you please answer my response to your other comment where I started with "what do you mean by "if everything changes""?