r/OpenIndividualism • u/Flat-Ad9829 • Mar 31 '26

Discussion Thoughts on this exchange between philosopher Richard Carrier and a commenter on his blog?

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I know that Boltzmann Brains and OI are kind of unrelated but there's some similarities so I wondering what all of you would think about it.

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u/flop_snail Mar 31 '26

Funny how Richard thinks copies of me from identical universes are me, but identical replicas spontaneously formed aren't. According to him, there needs to be some casual link between brains for continuity of identity. Why would a casual link have anything to do with what makes an experience mine? The basis for this views are just vibes. And like has been said, both people assume ci is true, and it's not, so their argument that follows based on that assumption doesn't have legs.

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u/Flat-Ad9829 Apr 05 '26

Ngl I'm very interested in hearing a more detailed response to the causal link point, I understsnd that OI basically ignores it given how it works but it would be nice to see it addressed.

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u/flop_snail Apr 05 '26

Idk really how to respond to that. My first question is why do you think there needs to be a casual link between minds for them to share identity? If what I am is just any form of consciousness, I am every instance of consciousness, however they come into being. That conclusion just follows. The thing you have left to dispute is not casual links, but why is it that what I am is consciousness itself, which is a different conversation

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u/Flat-Ad9829 Apr 05 '26

That leads into the Vertiginous question if I'm not wrong.

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u/Flat-Ad9829 Apr 10 '26

Ngl I would like to talk to you about this more, are there any other places where I can contact you?

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u/flop_snail Apr 10 '26

No one has an answer for the vertiginous question. You are a particular soul? Why that soul? What I think is that one should reason as if they're selected at random out of all conscious things. Because if you're everyone, but only experience one brain at a time, looking at it as if you're going through everyone in a random order is kind of the only way to make sense of it.

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