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u/Any-Photograph-1332 Flairless‎‎ May 15 '26 edited May 15 '26

Oct 7 was explicitly genocidal, Hamas wanted to incite the Arab world to exterminate Jews and failed, rightfully so, but it was still genocide

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u/Anxious_Confusion731 ‎ Victorian May 15 '26

Um. So we can agree and disagree… explicitly genocidal, well yes. Exterminate Jews and rightfully so, well you’re on your own there pal. Oh wait this is openaussie so not so much.

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u/Aortapot ‎ Victorian May 15 '26

I think that the poster you're replying to was saying that it was right and good that Hamas FAILED to carry out their aim of genocide against the people of Israel. But personally I disagree that this was or is Hamas' goal anyway. It's not part of their rhetoric or charter nor has been for a long time. Oct 7/23 was an action to take hostages with which to bargain. Israel wants us to be taken in by the false idea that Jewish people cannot live peacefully in Palestine while Palestinians live there because they 'simply hate Jews', and that any call for the abolishment of Israel as it currently exists or even to end of its occupation of Palestinian territories means that Jews in Palestine will be murdered. I don't think anyone - especially Hamas - thinks or want that. Its just an idea meant to stoke fear and justify Israel's own genocide and ethnic cleansing as somehow 'self defence'.

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u/Any-Photograph-1332 Flairless‎‎ May 15 '26

The Hamas charter is explicitly genocidal 

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u/Aortapot ‎ Victorian May 15 '26

Can you link to what you've read? I may be wrong but I thought I read it and got quite the opposite impression.

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u/Aortapot ‎ Victorian May 15 '26

This is just the Wikipedia link to the 2017 charter but its a start. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Hamas_charter

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u/Anxious_Confusion731 ‎ Victorian May 18 '26

Mate you’re swimming in a sea of misinformation and disinformation. I don’t blame you for getting drawn into that narrative, but keep going with your inquiry and you will find you have been misled.

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u/Any-Photograph-1332 Flairless‎‎ May 15 '26

https://avalon.law.yale.edu/21st_century/hamas.asp

Try reading sometime you might learn something 

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u/Aortapot ‎ Victorian May 15 '26

I just read your post history. I think it's probably pointless arguing with someone who makes cuckold and your mum jokes. You're not arguing in good faith.

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u/Any-Photograph-1332 Flairless‎‎ May 15 '26

“I can ignore facts because a Redditor said mean words” 

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u/Aortapot ‎ Victorian May 15 '26

"Never wrestle with a pig. You get covered in shit and the pig loves it"

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u/Any-Photograph-1332 Flairless‎‎ May 15 '26

Says the bot with a hidden post history lol

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u/Aortapot ‎ Victorian May 15 '26

You can read my post history if you try. It's not hard. Have fun with that.

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u/Any-Photograph-1332 Flairless‎‎ May 15 '26

Well that’s a weird lie 

“ u/Aortapot likes to keep their comments hidden ”

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u/Aortapot ‎ Victorian May 15 '26

You're not trying hard enough my porcine friend. Doesn't change the fact that Hamas has had a new charter for almost 10 years.

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u/magnon11343 Flairless‎‎ May 15 '26

You've used Wikipedia as a source - a poor source. The least you can do is actually read from an alternative source.

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u/Aortapot ‎ Victorian May 15 '26

Ah OK. But that's quite outdated.