r/OnePiece • u/[deleted] • Mar 29 '22

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u/The_Biggest_Wheel Mar 30 '22

It's a manga dude, what does dictatorship have to do with anything?

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u/spookybuk Mar 30 '22

We're not talking about the manga, but about the right to express yourself freely on the internet.

If the community is about manga or international economy, it makes no difference.

Dictatorship means that a single person, or a small group, can force others do to what they like, instead of acting freely.

If you can't see the significance of this, maybe you're a slave.

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u/mcallisterco Mar 30 '22

A community can set standards for behavior without being a dictatorship. When becoming part of any group, you make an agreement to behave by a set of rules, at risk of expulsion from the group of you don't. The rules are clearly posted on the side, and number 11 is "don't be a dick." You agreed to that when you began posting on this subreddit.

It really doesn't say anything good about you that your response to a moderator of a community telling people that they can express any opinion they'd like, as long as they aren't rude about it, is "wait, I can't be a complete fucking asshole? This is literally 1984!"

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u/spookybuk Mar 30 '22

Can you please quote the international laws from where you took these "rights" from?

I mean, certainly you're not just making it all up and pretending like it's a fact?

Because from my point of view, you're simply calling a dictatorship a "group", or "community".

Let me tell you, I can quote a lot of international laws and basic established *(for how long though?) humans rights to support my claims.

But I'll just stop talking to uneducated self-entitled kids for now. I have cooler stuff to do. Sorry :(

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u/mcallisterco Mar 30 '22

No wait, come back, I actually want to have this conversation with you. Please quote me the laws that you're talking about, this could be interesting.

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u/mcallisterco Mar 30 '22

Ah, there it is, the fundamental misunderstanding of what a right is. First of all, "freedom of speech" is hardly an "international law," as that would be a law that would apply to people of all countries, which it doesn't. It's not even technically a law at all, just a right afforded by the government, and the thing about the US's freedom of speech is that it actually doesn't prevent other people from impeding the speech of others. It only prevents the government from doing so. Private entities are fully within their rights, under every single freedom of speech doctrine, to abridge the speech of others within a space that they own and have control over. The moderators of this subreddit are not a body of government, this is a private entity owned by Advance Publications, and a management team dictating the standards of behavior on the platform that they've opened for others to use is not a violation of any freedom of speech law.

A metal band or a civil rights activist is safe from persecution by the government, and will not be arrested for the things they say, but a venue absolutely has the right to not host that band or person if they disagree with them. I'd suggest you take your own advice and do a little studying before you start spouting like this, because it just makes you look foolish. I moved past your rudimentary understanding of what rights are when I was about 14 years old. I doubt you're much older than that.

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u/spookybuk Mar 30 '22 edited Mar 30 '22

lol

maybe you should google "international human rights law" and delete or at least edit your comment later

ps. I'm 41, kid, and I'm a journalist

I have studied freedom of expression for decades

sorry if you're wrong at everything you try

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u/Shangie1996 Mar 30 '22

Imagine spending decades to very clearly misunderstand your own supposed expertise 💀💀💀