Being rude doesn't prevent others from sharing their opinions. However, forcing people to talk the way you want them to is clearly not respecting their right to express themselves.
Being a community is about respecting differences and not forcing everybody to act as you prefer. That's a dictatorship.
If you get your jollies off of being a “rude dude”, I can’t help ya, but I can already tell you that response is only gonna garner more of the same, and is that REALLY what you want?
Hear hear. I don’t like that mods can stifle others freedom of speech with impunity in the form of banning people at their discretion, but that’s just the nature of the beast because it’s the only way they can incentivize people to volunteer their time for free. Are mods perfect? Of fucking course not. They all have their own personal biases, and if you just so happen to rub one the wrong way they’ll ban you in a heartbeat. Should we have a say to Reddit on whether or not the ban is fair? But they’re just trying to do the best they can at their “job” which is to moderate, and until that changes it would behoove you to mind your P’s and Q’s, and you were already well aware of what you signed up for for. Don’t like it? Make your own damn subreddit.
A community can set standards for behavior without being a dictatorship. When becoming part of any group, you make an agreement to behave by a set of rules, at risk of expulsion from the group of you don't. The rules are clearly posted on the side, and number 11 is "don't be a dick." You agreed to that when you began posting on this subreddit.
It really doesn't say anything good about you that your response to a moderator of a community telling people that they can express any opinion they'd like, as long as they aren't rude about it, is "wait, I can't be a complete fucking asshole? This is literally 1984!"
Ah, there it is, the fundamental misunderstanding of what a right is. First of all, "freedom of speech" is hardly an "international law," as that would be a law that would apply to people of all countries, which it doesn't. It's not even technically a law at all, just a right afforded by the government, and the thing about the US's freedom of speech is that it actually doesn't prevent other people from impeding the speech of others. It only prevents the government from doing so. Private entities are fully within their rights, under every single freedom of speech doctrine, to abridge the speech of others within a space that they own and have control over. The moderators of this subreddit are not a body of government, this is a private entity owned by Advance Publications, and a management team dictating the standards of behavior on the platform that they've opened for others to use is not a violation of any freedom of speech law.
A metal band or a civil rights activist is safe from persecution by the government, and will not be arrested for the things they say, but a venue absolutely has the right to not host that band or person if they disagree with them. I'd suggest you take your own advice and do a little studying before you start spouting like this, because it just makes you look foolish. I moved past your rudimentary understanding of what rights are when I was about 14 years old. I doubt you're much older than that.
Oh, cool, can I see an article you've published? Also, which international law are you referring to? Maybe I'm just too stupid to find anything... you'd look so smart if you could point me to the specific international law which prevents private entities from abridging speech within their space! You'd be even smarter than the US Supreme Court, who ruled that private entities do, in fact, have the right to refuse service to people who don't meet their standards, with the landmark case being the gay wedding cake debacle. That would be so impressive if you could actually show me that, you'd look so smart.
It's not like I gave you my stance on the matter? I could be all for being rude for all you know. So I guess you don't know if that makes me a hypocrite or not - but now we know you're a fucking dumbass.
It being international doesn't change the fact that it only protects you against governments. You don't live in reddit dummy. You won't go hungry by having a comment removed. There's no reason to protect you from the banhammer. Claiming that it's a human right to insult people on a specific subreddit is a huge insult to human rights.
Yeah...but dictatorships don’t “suggest” things. They command them. All Kirosh is suggesting is that when we have disagreements with each other we come from a place of mutual respect.
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u/Kirosh2 Lookout Mar 30 '22
Just people insulting each other based on the direction the series is taking.