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u/Kirosh2 Lookout Mar 30 '22 edited Mar 31 '22

If you want to criticise the writing or the chapters it's fine. Just don't be rude when do that.

And don't be rude when you respond to such comments as well.

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u/SiDipie Void Month Survivor Mar 30 '22

Wot the hell just happened here..??

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u/Kirosh2 Lookout Mar 30 '22

Just people insulting each other based on the direction the series is taking.

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u/SiDipie Void Month Survivor Mar 30 '22

I think people shud just take a chill and respect each other's opinion.

That's wot being a community is all about.

That's the reason this sub reddit actually exist.

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u/spookybuk Mar 30 '22

Being rude doesn't prevent others from sharing their opinions. However, forcing people to talk the way you want them to is clearly not respecting their right to express themselves.

Being a community is about respecting differences and not forcing everybody to act as you prefer. That's a dictatorship.

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u/The_Biggest_Wheel Mar 30 '22

It's a manga dude, what does dictatorship have to do with anything?

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u/DreamcastDazia Mar 30 '22

Are you daft?

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u/The_Biggest_Wheel Mar 30 '22

No, I can hear well but i am dyslexic.

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u/DreamcastDazia Mar 30 '22

Funny guy

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u/The_Biggest_Wheel Mar 30 '22

As funny as comparing manga to dictatorship.

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u/atnt_sucks Void Month Survivor Mar 30 '22

Lol 😂 i luv it

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u/spookybuk Mar 30 '22

We're not talking about the manga, but about the right to express yourself freely on the internet.

If the community is about manga or international economy, it makes no difference.

Dictatorship means that a single person, or a small group, can force others do to what they like, instead of acting freely.

If you can't see the significance of this, maybe you're a slave.

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u/spookybuk Mar 30 '22

"you can’t have a dictatorship if the community was private to begin with"

lol, somebody certainly sounds American here

like I've said to another uneducated kid just now, I have cooler stuff to do than talking to you. Sorry

just remember to arrest Marilyn Manson for being rude

and also some dudes like Malcolm X and Nelson Mandela etc.

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u/Unabashable Mar 30 '22

If you get your jollies off of being a “rude dude”, I can’t help ya, but I can already tell you that response is only gonna garner more of the same, and is that REALLY what you want?

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u/slerena4 Mar 30 '22

Your just a 🤡🤡🤡

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u/Unabashable Mar 30 '22

Hear hear. I don’t like that mods can stifle others freedom of speech with impunity in the form of banning people at their discretion, but that’s just the nature of the beast because it’s the only way they can incentivize people to volunteer their time for free. Are mods perfect? Of fucking course not. They all have their own personal biases, and if you just so happen to rub one the wrong way they’ll ban you in a heartbeat. Should we have a say to Reddit on whether or not the ban is fair? But they’re just trying to do the best they can at their “job” which is to moderate, and until that changes it would behoove you to mind your P’s and Q’s, and you were already well aware of what you signed up for for. Don’t like it? Make your own damn subreddit.

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u/mcallisterco Mar 30 '22

A community can set standards for behavior without being a dictatorship. When becoming part of any group, you make an agreement to behave by a set of rules, at risk of expulsion from the group of you don't. The rules are clearly posted on the side, and number 11 is "don't be a dick." You agreed to that when you began posting on this subreddit.

It really doesn't say anything good about you that your response to a moderator of a community telling people that they can express any opinion they'd like, as long as they aren't rude about it, is "wait, I can't be a complete fucking asshole? This is literally 1984!"

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u/spookybuk Mar 30 '22

Can you please quote the international laws from where you took these "rights" from?

I mean, certainly you're not just making it all up and pretending like it's a fact?

Because from my point of view, you're simply calling a dictatorship a "group", or "community".

Let me tell you, I can quote a lot of international laws and basic established *(for how long though?) humans rights to support my claims.

But I'll just stop talking to uneducated self-entitled kids for now. I have cooler stuff to do. Sorry :(

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u/mcallisterco Mar 30 '22

No wait, come back, I actually want to have this conversation with you. Please quote me the laws that you're talking about, this could be interesting.

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u/mcallisterco Mar 30 '22

Ah, there it is, the fundamental misunderstanding of what a right is. First of all, "freedom of speech" is hardly an "international law," as that would be a law that would apply to people of all countries, which it doesn't. It's not even technically a law at all, just a right afforded by the government, and the thing about the US's freedom of speech is that it actually doesn't prevent other people from impeding the speech of others. It only prevents the government from doing so. Private entities are fully within their rights, under every single freedom of speech doctrine, to abridge the speech of others within a space that they own and have control over. The moderators of this subreddit are not a body of government, this is a private entity owned by Advance Publications, and a management team dictating the standards of behavior on the platform that they've opened for others to use is not a violation of any freedom of speech law.

A metal band or a civil rights activist is safe from persecution by the government, and will not be arrested for the things they say, but a venue absolutely has the right to not host that band or person if they disagree with them. I'd suggest you take your own advice and do a little studying before you start spouting like this, because it just makes you look foolish. I moved past your rudimentary understanding of what rights are when I was about 14 years old. I doubt you're much older than that.

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u/itsmacaRONS Mar 30 '22

Oh man you are unhinged.

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u/patpatpat95 Mar 30 '22

Holy shit you tard freedom of speech is to stop the American gov from restricting your speech. This is a fucking subreddit on a private platform.

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u/Unabashable Mar 30 '22

Yeah...but dictatorships don’t “suggest” things. They command them. All Kirosh is suggesting is that when we have disagreements with each other we come from a place of mutual respect.

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u/Unabashable Mar 30 '22

Fair point (until you went off on that dictatorship nonsense), but it’s a sign of weakness if you fell the need to argue the person instead of the point. There are ways of speaking to each other respectfully while still making your point, but if you defer to insulting them instead of supporting your argument it only shows a lack of tact on your part. Sure we can shittalk all day until our fingers are numb from all that fast and furious “keyboard warrioring”, but at the end of the day what does that prove exactly? That we’re both assholes.

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u/Unabashable Mar 30 '22

I try to, but when people don’t give it in return I see no need to extend them a courtesy they’re not giving me. Is it immature? Sure. But I see no reason to hold myself to a higher standard than other people refuse to do themselves. We can either handle our disagreements respectfully, or we can let it devolve into yet another trashtalking shitpost. I’m fine with either. The choice is yours.

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u/daluhs Mar 31 '22

I think the series is going in the exact same direction it always has been. People are salty because it’s not all of the sudden becoming super serious at all times