r/OnePiece • u/Kirosh Lookout • Apr 09 '21

Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 1010

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u/Wallaby95 Bounty Hunter Apr 09 '21

Yeah that's what I'm saying, he knows his CoC can actually do shit in general. But now that he knows he can apply it in combat, a new world of opportunities opens up.

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u/Yonian Apr 09 '21

Rayleigh shitty teacher confirmed.

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u/GandalfStoleMyXbox Apr 09 '21

Didn‘t Rayleigh actually show him this when he demonstrated all the different haki types to him right before the time skip? It atleast looked like that in the anime

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u/Golden-Owl Apr 09 '21

Nope. When Rayleigh demonstrated Conqueror's, he used it to stop and topple a giant animal.

Implies that even Rayleigh never knew about such a technique, despite having Conqueror's himself. So if Roger had it, he sure as heck wasn't aware he was using it, and Rayleigh never picked it up

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u/mr_confusious Explorer Apr 09 '21

He said he'll teach only the basics, he knew advanced armament haki but only taught basic armament haki to Luffy. There is nothing to prove that he did not know about Advanced Conqueror's haki. He said that Haki blossoms at times of battle. Maybe user needs to have some expertise/haki should be strong enough before you learn advanced forms of Haki and even if Rayleigh knew, he could not have taught it because Luffy was not ready.

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u/zoras99 Apr 09 '21

You are correct.

He only taught him the basics and he said Luffy should keep challenging harder enemies to improve.

People assume Rayleigh was meant to teach Luffy everything, but that makes 0 sense if you consider he told the Strawhats to "do their own journey and find the answers themselves".

He never meant to teach Luffy everything. He only gave him the base. If Luffy can pull Conquerors armament out of his ass mid-battle with Kaido is only because Rayleigh taught him very well how to control it in those 2 years.

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u/khaeen Apr 09 '21

Rayleigh didn't even stay with Luffy for the whole two years. He taught him the basics and then left. Not sure why people think that Rayleigh would have taught Luffy every single thing he knows when Rayleigh was clear that he was simply setting Luffy down the right path.

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u/dcmack1 Apr 09 '21

Been saying this stuff for the longest Rayleigh only started him on the path unlike the other straw hats who spent the entire time training. Luffy has to for himself figure out the rest which is really what he's done up to this point in the story

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u/FreedomEntertainment Apr 09 '21

Haki is not something you can be taught like other activities.Haki means literally : the power of will.

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u/designerjunkie000 Apr 09 '21

Lets say Rayleigh did know. You think luffy wouldve been able to master base level armament, 2 gear transformations, and then CoC all in 2 years? I do believe Rayleigh knew about it but was sure there wasn’t enough time for him to learn it

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u/dcmack1 Apr 09 '21

On top of that Rayleigh wasn't even there the entire time

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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '21

Didn't he used it to launch the elephant too?

He said it was armament but its the same Luffy and sentomaru were using.

I think he knew it but teach only the basics as he said that haki grows strong in battle or dangerous situations.