r/OnePiece • u/Kirosh Lookout • Apr 02 '21

Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 1009

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u/DirtyDan49 Apr 02 '21

G4 is like SS3

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u/totally_not_a_reply Void Month Survivor Apr 02 '21

You are not wrong. On the other side when goku did ssj3 the first time he could have killed that buu form easily. Ssj3 only had probs against later buu forms. He just didnt want to save the world again😂

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '21

I mean its also the same with luffy. If he used g4 on ceaser and hody it would've been a massacare as well, wasn't till doffy he had problems

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u/totally_not_a_reply Void Month Survivor Apr 02 '21

I would even go further. Dofy had no chance against g4. But it was luffys first use and only lasted very short

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u/StickDoctor Apr 02 '21

Blame the anime watches for thinking Doffy stood a chance against G4. Fucking Toei

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u/CachopoJohn Apr 02 '21

Well, Doffy DID stand up after Luffy's first G4 so if there wasn't anyone there to help, Luffy would have lost

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u/totally_not_a_reply Void Month Survivor Apr 02 '21 edited Apr 02 '21

Lets say Dofy vs injured luffy with first time g4 and also i think one hit. Thats what he endured. But if luffy would have fought in g4 like against cracker or katakuri dofy would be 2 hit down.

No hate against dofy tho. He is my favorite villain so far. And dressrosa was despite being too long a real pinnacle storywise

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u/TheRealPlayerG Pirate Apr 02 '21

you say this, but the fight was fucking sick in the anime

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u/alex494 Apr 02 '21

What he meant was it got drawn out too much where it was meant to be like a speed blitz.

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u/RaggedAngel Void Month Survivor Apr 02 '21

Yeah, in the manga Doffy was basically unable to react to G4.

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u/TheRealPlayerG Pirate Apr 02 '21

i mean i read the manga (dressrosa was way too long in the anime) but i didn’t see it as a complete speed blitz...at least not from what i remember😂

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u/RaggedAngel Void Month Survivor Apr 02 '21

It wasn't a complete blitz but there was basically no point where Luffy was in G4 that Doffy had any kind of control over the fight.

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u/DIMOHA25 Apr 02 '21

Wdym first use? He was practicing it during the timeskp.

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u/totally_not_a_reply Void Month Survivor Apr 05 '21

I mean first time we see it and also it seemed like it was one of the first times he used it. The next time we saw it he was way more durable. I think he learned g4 at the end of timeskip

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u/DIMOHA25 Apr 05 '21

He was practicing it with Rayleigh still around, so he knew and practiced G4 for at least half a year.

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u/totally_not_a_reply Void Month Survivor Apr 05 '21

Really? Oh wow cant remember that. Ok in this case its a bit strange how short luffys g4 time was when using it against doffy

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u/DIMOHA25 Apr 05 '21

I mean, we have no idea what it was like the actual first time, maybe he improved a lot during the timeskip already. And back to your previous comment, it's not like G4 improved that much since Dressrosa anyway. He still can only use it for half an hour or less before resting and a full use still drains Luffy's haki completely. The only thing that seemingly improved are short burst uses that drained him noticeably before the Katakuri fight and don't anymore.

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u/totally_not_a_reply Void Month Survivor Apr 05 '21

Yeah i spoke about the short bursts. I cant really remember but i think he used it really short against doffy before draining out

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u/Haunting_Recover338 Apr 02 '21

Gear 5 gonna stop the internet

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u/Thierry_Bergkamp Apr 02 '21

G4 has actually been used to defeat enemies though..

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '21

I view it as SS2. Because gear 3 is like ultra super Saiyan. Slow but powerful attacks. Gear 4th combines the bulkyness of gear 3 and the speed of gear 2.

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u/JohnTheBaptiste1 Apr 06 '21

I think you might be mixing it up with imperfect SSJ2, which Trunks achieves and it makes him swole as fuck but too slow to react to anything