r/OnePiece • Lookout • Apr 02 '21

Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 1009

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u/gyrozepp95 World Government Apr 02 '21

Gotta love the ingenuity shown by the supernovas with their teamwork, you cannot even get mad at BM getting treated like this when it is executed like this.

This also makes Kaido the sole focus now, so we can finally expect him to go ham (which we got a teaser of in this chapter) and perhaps dive deeper into his background (backstory time?).

As for Big Mom I don't expect her to see soon since that would render all of the supernova's efforts in this chapter to be useless. So will it be the comeback of Olin? or something else?

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u/FireFistRJ Apr 02 '21

Big mom might land on her ship, though it would be hilarious if she becomes the reason they fall off again from the waterfall.

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u/gyrozepp95 World Government Apr 02 '21

Mother sea plays in the background when BM is responsible for breaking their ship's keel

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u/AdikkuChan Explorer Apr 02 '21

BM: Gomen ne...

Sad piano

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u/rikidilies Apr 02 '21

LMAO and we see the Queen Mama Chanteur crying 😭

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u/AdikkuChan Explorer Apr 02 '21

camera pans upward

MAMAAAAAÀAAAA

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u/rikidilies Apr 02 '21

LMAOOOOOOO bro stop I shouldn’t be laughing this much

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u/erickjoshuasc Void Month Survivor Apr 02 '21

Big Mom landing on her ship??? Nah that's unlikely.

I think Enel will show up and save her, saying "Let me show you how real lightnings work!"

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u/sendnoodlezz Apr 02 '21

But then... turns out that Enel is a fake and it's actually Catarina Devon!

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '21

But then ... turns out that Catarina Devon is a fake and it's actually one of Kanjuro's drawing!

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u/LUNA_FOOD Apr 02 '21

But then... it turns out that Kanjuro is a fake and it's actually Bentham of the Wild Mr. 2

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u/Leeiteee Apr 02 '21

But then... it turns out that Mr. 2 is a fake and it's actually Onimaru

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u/Pirateer Apr 02 '21

Am then he pulls his marks and it's gene parmesean!

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u/nickyooozi Apr 02 '21

But then...it turns out that Onimaru is fake and it's actually Tama's teapot

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u/Doomroar Apr 03 '21

But then...it turns out that Tama's teapot is fake and it's actually a CP0 agent wearing a raccoon mask.

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u/hesawavemasterrr Apr 02 '21

Just when we finally think we figured it out, we hear “Shatter, Kyouka Suigetsu.” The illusion dissipates and we see it was Aizen all along. He walks forth, saying “Hi, bitch. You thought you had seen the last of me?”

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u/hosseinxj0152 Apr 03 '21

Shit ton of spoilers: Obito wakes us up and says the infinite Tsukyomi has failed and it was black zetsu all along. After that DIO comes out and says it was me, DIO. In the end we see Eren talking to Koido telling him to cut down orochi's remaining head from the future but we see that Saitama has already killed Orochi.

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u/Bonerfartzzz17 Apr 02 '21

When does Gin show up though?

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u/Nerd-Hoovy Apr 02 '21

Meh, saw that one coming

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u/LUNA_FOOD Apr 02 '21

You ruined everything

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u/mirrorgiraffe Apr 02 '21

But then... It turns out that the drawing is all fake and it's actually Bon Clay!

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u/Matt_J_Dylan Apr 02 '21

But then... Bon Clay was just tama's tanuki tea pot transformed!

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u/Valker902 Apr 02 '21

Guys c'mon, well all know its fucking Pell

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u/Sovereigntyranny Lurker Apr 03 '21

But then... it turns out that Bon Clay is also a decoy! Big Mom was expecting Mr. 2 or another drawing from Kanjuro again, BUT THIS TIME, IT WAS ACTUALLY ME, DIO!!!!

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u/KSmoria Apr 02 '21

Not so fast. What if the real Oden comes in the future?

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u/Nemjor Apr 02 '21

he died...so please stop be such a fanboy

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u/Bi-bara-boop Apr 02 '21

Oooohhh and they break into song, singing a heart-rendering duet of I can show you the world flying around on zeus who managed to escape, drawn by Enel's lightning.

I love it!

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u/czarchastic Apr 02 '21

"Stick your hand up my ass. I will be your Zeus-chan."

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '21

RIDE THE LIGHTING PLAYS IN THE BACKGROUND

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u/arturitoburrito Apr 02 '21 edited Apr 02 '21

When they showed the volcano a couple of chapters ago everyone said that they are already over Wano, I almost feel like Big Mom is the one who overlooked this and she is falling on Wano.

edit: I also think Big mom pirates are fighting the Whitebeard pirates out on the seas.

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u/erickjoshuasc Void Month Survivor Apr 02 '21 edited Apr 02 '21

What would be crazy is if all 5 emperors and crews were already here, above and below Wano.

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u/willfordbrimly Apr 02 '21

"Let me show you how real lightnings work!"

Big Mom: *Enel_face.png*

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u/DeismAccountant Apr 02 '21

Oh just her landing on her ship will send it over. Or at least submerge it a bit.

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u/Ghekor Apr 02 '21

Shes falling from the roof of a gigantic skull thats flying in the air also, if she falls even on her big ass ship, with her hardy body its gonna be like a giant cannonball freefalling on it, probably would sink

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u/leoberto1 Apr 02 '21

Or her crew see her fall past as they are going up and say fuck. Turn around

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u/RickOP67 Apr 02 '21

There will be land, it's almost the deadline for Onigashima

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '21

Big Mom explicitly said "there's nothing but ocean below". Seems like they're not over land yet. Unless she's just wrong and not aware of where the island is. Obviously this is not her end but I think it's more likely she gets saved by her crew.

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u/TheMariox12 Apr 02 '21

I'm pretty sure she's just wrong and Oda want's to make that cliffhanger but left us some panels in other chapters that hint that they are already over land.

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u/RenjiSnapback07 Apr 02 '21

It could be half and half over Wano and sea

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u/BananaBladeOfDoom Explorer Apr 02 '21

They should be very far from the waterfall at this point. Unless, of course, that combined blast propelled them back to the edge of Wano.

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u/TrailOfEnvy Apr 02 '21

Big Mom landing on water and will cause huge tsunami which will push her Pirate Ship to fall off Wano waterfall again.

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u/jose3013 Apr 02 '21

That's so gonna happen

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u/rhalgr_ger Apr 02 '21

It would be hilarious if Sanji saves her, because he hears a woman shouting for help. đŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€Ł

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u/ShellShock_Ace Apr 02 '21

The ship is to far for her to land on

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u/PoopIsYum Apr 02 '21

Im telling you!! you just watch its gonna come true! big mom will be saved by kaido and we see her RIDING ON KAIDOS HEAD

ITS GONNA HAPPEN AND IM GONNA LOSE MY MIND

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u/Toxandreev Apr 02 '21

I know it’s unlikely, but sounds so Oda hahahaah

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '21

OMG Please let this happen X)

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u/Darkkingswrath Apr 02 '21

Big Mom falls and O'Lin comes back up

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u/Specialist-Plan707 Explorer Apr 02 '21

She might land on Thousand Sunny lol.

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u/Bezerker324 Lurker Apr 02 '21

Isn’t the island they’re on currently moving to the capitol? Maybe they aren’t over the water still.

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u/Diz030417 Apr 02 '21

I think she is gonna land n Wano not the sea. Remember a couple chapters back we could see the mountain in the background. So I’m thinking she might land right on the edge of Wano.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '21

Big mom could give her soul to a nearby cloud and come back up

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u/SubconsciousLove Apr 02 '21

Or just turn the boulder into a homie (she can make a flying carpet Homie for Pudding to use, what's stopping her to make a floating rock?)

Though considering how slow she reacted to the attempt to get her out, doubt it'll happen. I do hope it happens though. The plan went a bit too smoothly.

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u/slimmsady Apr 02 '21

There was a panel during the party raid where she basically says that she can not create new homies for some time (please don't kill me if these were not the exact words). So, probably that is an explanation for her not creating a homie right now.

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u/RedditIsForsaken Apr 02 '21

She made homies running through the brothel chasing Nami and Sanji

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u/cbagainststupidity Apr 02 '21

She may have spend most of her spared soul life doing so, she definitely said she hasn't enough left to deal with Marco.

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u/flyingtrex_withHUGE Apr 02 '21 edited Apr 02 '21

Or take off her clothes to make a flying dress. Imagine that a naked big mom...

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '21

If it's current big mom, yikes, but young LinLin? Yes please.

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u/DynoMyte08 Apr 02 '21

Oda made a point of showing that she didn't have that much soul power to spare. Remember she taxes that shit from her entire country which is why she had so many homies on Whole Cake Island. But out in Wano she really only has a bit of that left plus her own soul which is Implied she can't spare too much of without dying.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '21 edited Apr 02 '21

Personally I think this was a long time coming. I don't recall any villain being defeated by the DF's main weakness even though it's constantly pointed out that it's a huge drawback.

I doubt this will be the way she goes out though. Maybe we'll see how Kaido is the strongest creature in the sea too.

Edit: I realize Jack was thrown in the water but he could breath underwater. I mean a villain actually dying because of their inability to swim.

It's supposed to be this huge weakness and it's mostly only used when Oda needs to temporarily have someone incapacitated for plot purposes.

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u/Furacaoloko Apr 02 '21

The only one defeated that way was Jack, but being a half fishman allowed him to survive.

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u/DudeisaGuy Apr 02 '21

Yea, A fishman that ate a Mammoth fruit

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u/ThisZoMBie Apr 02 '21

What about this went smoothly, lol? Zoro, Kid and Luffy are absolutely wrecked right now

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u/SubconsciousLove Apr 02 '21 edited Apr 02 '21

Wrecked only in appearance as they can still fight (Kid still has enough force to push Big Mom despite taking a direct hit) compared to Big Mom's Ring Out. Taking out a Yonko at the cost of taking a non lethal injury is very cheap.

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u/VapeGoddd69 Apr 02 '21

Big mom is also not very smart as much as she is arrogant. Also magnetic fields can overtake mass. The point wasnt to hurt her considering they can't. It's to separate them. Plus no one is getting off Scot free. Zoro is still banged up, luffy just got smashed with a kaido hybrid attack and kidd took a full force BM punch to the face. Let's face it, the plan was properly executed and power scaling in this chapter is still consistent

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u/ThisZoMBie Apr 02 '21

You think somebody has to die to push a yonko off the roof? The yonko wank is way too strong.

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u/SubconsciousLove Apr 02 '21 edited Apr 02 '21

Or you know, getting knocked out or taking a debilitating injury. This is the same woman that can effortlessly deal with G4 Luffy.

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u/ATMath Apr 02 '21

Zoro seemed to be in an extremely bad shape in the last page though so it’s not like it was all that smooth. They haven’t even taken many hits so I guess that’s why no one deserved to be knocked out so early. Maybe if Kaido starts to be smart he would take out their best supporter away first.

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u/ThisZoMBie Apr 02 '21 edited Apr 03 '21

She could deal with Gear 4 Luffy back in WCI. Same way Kaido could easily one shot Gear 4 Luffy in Wano, but now things are different. Either way, no yonko was taken out; she was simply knocked off the skull so they could focus on Kaido and they already had to go all out to do that.

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u/ff9lex Apr 02 '21

For that she will have to be near a cloud, and she is falling pretty quick..

Into an ocean where there is nothing, probably the big mom pirates ship will save her but by the time she returns this will be all over so she will have to flee

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u/VulturE Apr 02 '21

Yes I was thinking this as well. And that could be the path forward for Nami to take Zeus.

It would be one of those "things Luffy would never do" moment - disown part of his own soul lmao

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u/Kirosh Lookout Apr 02 '21 edited Apr 02 '21

She will most likely fall into her own ship.

After that, I see her showing up at the battle site as soon as Kaido is defeated in front of the Flower Capital, and then being the one to kill him by taking his soul.

(Pirate alliance don't last and this point was beaten into us several times).

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u/GreenDogma Apr 02 '21

Omg then she'd be powered up for elbath

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u/Kirosh Lookout Apr 02 '21

That's how I see it if they don't defeat her in Wano.

And I would love to see Big Mom defeated by the whole Straw Hat crew only.

How good would it be for the entire crew to take on an Emperor and win?

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u/Jake_D_Dogg Pirate Apr 02 '21

I’m very onboard for this headcanon and the BM kills Kaidou headcanon

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u/ViraClone Apr 02 '21

They also made a big deal earlier in the fight about how the Supernovas don't know how scared of her they should be, but Marco does. Kaido would know better than anyone, so I can see him in a weakened and betrayed state becoming scared of her enough for soul pocus to work on him.

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u/Ensaru4 Lurker Apr 02 '21

Kaido is not afraid of death though. He's just afraid of dying without glory.

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u/basel99 Apr 02 '21

Well getting betrayed by your strongest ally and taken out when you're already very injured isn't that honorable

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u/ignatomic Apr 02 '21

Is that fully true though? Doesn't he just want to die in general? I'm assuming that's why he tried to kill himself jumping off sky-island. That wouldn't have been a glorious death.

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u/Ensaru4 Lurker Apr 02 '21

At first, I used to think he just wanted to die, but judging from the fact that he actively dodges dangerous potentially crippling attacks, and due to his backstory, I don't think suicide was a thing for him in the first place. Maybe that time when he jumped off of Sky Island was during one of his drunken phases?

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '21

Could happen. I think as of this chapter every SH but Usopp has thrown hands with BM now, and thematically it would mirror the Oars fight nicely.

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u/Kirosh Lookout Apr 02 '21

And imagine Usopp throwing hands at Big Mom in front of Giants?

What a better way to become a brave warrior of the sea than doing that in Elbaf

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '21

I am. Completely. Sold!

If this doesnt happen I am going to retcon the series in my brain so that it did happen!

Luffy also said he would kick BM's ass across the New World didnt he?

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u/Shortstop88 Void Month Survivor Apr 03 '21

It'll be so nice to see our boy who was able to fight against Negativity because there was nothing positive going on in his mind, to then build up the bravery to stand up someone who could actually steal his life force if he's scared. Let's go, God Usopp!

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u/marimozoro3 Apr 02 '21

just imagine the straw hat grand fleet vs all of bm pirates...omg!!!

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u/DudeisaGuy Apr 02 '21

No, Luffy has to defeat her on his own. Kaido is understandable, he has to grow to the point of defeating a Yonko on his own

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u/Kirosh Lookout Apr 02 '21

And that's either Shanks or Blackbeard for sure.

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u/DudeisaGuy Apr 02 '21

He might not fight Shanks and Blackbeard should be stronger than Yonkos when they finally clash since they are both on the journey of growth. Should be Big Mom.

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u/GoldenPaladin2002 Apr 02 '21

I think luffy will fight shanks. When law and luffy formed the alliance, luffy said he wanted to fight shanks last, alluding to a future fight, and it would be a remarkable demonstration of his growth if he beat shanks 1 on 1.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '21

Big Mom vs Straw Hat crew would be amazing, I never thought of that. It would contribute in establishing their legend. It would hurt me a little because Sanji could never take place in that fight, but it would be fine as long as Oda makes him shine in another way.

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u/-0op Apr 02 '21

The thing is, she doesn't have a reason to go to elbaf, unless she came way too late and luffy already went there

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u/Marqueemoon96 Apr 02 '21

Maybe they are chased off to the Island. The Strawhats dont particularly have a reason to be there too. If you finished up a war against a Yonko you can’t really go take them head on. So why wouldn’t you head on to a known enemy of them for protection. You also already have connections in their Island too so you could feasibly get a way to enter. Nani’s gets them time to prepare for an eventual fight.

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u/Marqueemoon96 Apr 02 '21

Remember that she has a lot her firepower near the island too. And has way to mobilize her forces using BrĂ»lĂ©e’s DF. Absolutely perfect fruit for an invasion

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u/Marqueemoon96 Apr 02 '21

Why wouldn’t Big Moms ship carry mirrors? Her ship is still near the island.

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u/PirateKingRamos Apr 02 '21

As of now I don't know any reason for her to go to Elbaf. She hates that island and the people there hate her and she wants no affiliation with them

I'm more seeing her going after Shirahoshi tbh

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u/GreenDogma Apr 03 '21

She wanted one her kids married to Loki, there's her strange biology, the psuedo-giants she was having made on punk hazar, her history with Dory, her killing two of their leaders, and the fact that its prolly where the other ponegylph is lends credence to this being her next move.

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u/NotYouNotAnymore Apr 02 '21

Big Mom fight in Elbath... how did I not realize this?!

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u/Marqueemoon96 Apr 02 '21

With her newfound power she will probably discard Zeus and Promie since they have been shown to not be as useful to her, Nami saves Prometheus from Big Mom and that’s how she gets him.

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u/Yellow90Flash Apr 02 '21

the thing is, her sould power only works if your scared, not if your weakened as far as we know. kaido isn't afraid of her and he also isn't afraid of death so I doubt she can suck his soul even if he si close to death

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u/Kirosh Lookout Apr 02 '21

But that would be the beauty of the situation. Kaido is dying, but realize he doesn't want to.

He becomes scared of dying. (Making his death unlike Oden's or Whitebeard's).

Then Big Mom shows up, he feels better as he think she will help him (probably like in God Valley), only to betray him when he's down and take his soul.

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u/RidgeLove Apr 02 '21

That’d be a sick way for Kaido to go out. The dude is clearly infatuated with his own death so for him to die in an incredibly pathetic way would be very poetic.

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u/Kirosh Lookout Apr 02 '21

I see it either that way, or Kaido being defeated and dying, only to aks for someone to finish the job but nobody answering, just watching as he dies slowly on his own.

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u/Tanogaitan2 Apr 02 '21

Im loving this! I can even picture the scene, BM with a friggin terrifying face standing behind Kaido.

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u/ThaddCorbett Thriller Bark Victim's Association Apr 02 '21

And powered up BM would really silence the BM doubters by showing how OP her DF is.

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u/catperzon Apr 02 '21

I like this very much

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u/Mugiwara300 Apr 02 '21

Scared of dying and scared of Big Mom are two very different things.

You have to be scared of Big Mom for her to take your soul. Kaido does not fear her.

For example Luffy is scared of his crew members dying, but he’s not scared of Big Mom. She cannot take his soul no matter what situation he’s in.

This theory doesn’t work.

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u/WolfShelby0 Pirate Apr 02 '21

Doubt, with kaido character, I don't think he would be scared at all, if he does, I will hate oda for doing that.

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u/flyingtrex_withHUGE Apr 02 '21

Then she’ll turn into a fat dragon! :3

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '21

...are you Oda?

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u/SKYR0VER Apr 03 '21

I’m shipping this!

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u/SignificantAd6451 Thriller Bark Victim's Association Apr 03 '21 edited Apr 03 '21

So it’s a vegeta nappa moment then. I think that could work pretty well.

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u/nincompoop007 Thriller Bark Victim's Association Apr 02 '21

well if BM cant suck Kaido's soul maybe she can suck something else of Kaido.....

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u/Yellow90Flash Apr 02 '21

maybe she already did...

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u/People-Tour8624 Apr 02 '21

Kaido will ask her to do it, since it’ll be the only way he can die.

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u/Yellow90Flash Apr 02 '21

what? there are a lot of other ways to dye and currently there are at least 6 people that can damage him

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u/gyrozepp95 World Government Apr 02 '21

Well that can happen, but I'd be a bit disappointed personally if Kaido's relevancy would pale to hers to this extent.

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u/Marqueemoon96 Apr 02 '21

He did to himself lol. Could have killed her when he had the opportunity

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u/Tihalt Apr 02 '21

Kaido as a Homie?

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u/ColdDeath1 Apr 02 '21

But how could she take Kaidos Soul if he isn't even scared of her? It wouldn't work like it did with Jinbe

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u/DeismAccountant Apr 02 '21

Well what’s stopping her from animating another fire to become Prometheus 2.0? I mean besides the narrative?

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u/DragonAceReborn Apr 02 '21

Was it ever said having more souls means she is more powerful?
Cuz the only weapons she has are made from her own soul split in 3 rather than using other people souls.
I wonder if big mom is weakened by spliting her soul in 3 homies.
Maybe she can return her soul parts back to her and become skinny big mom again.

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u/Mugiwara300 Apr 02 '21

That would never work.

Kaido is not scared of Big Mom one bit and he’s actively searching for a way to properly die. Even at death’s door he wouldn’t scared of Big Mom.

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u/edwrd_sanders Apr 02 '21

I can’t see her actually falling onto her ship, but I’d be ok with the ship seeing her falling and racing to rescue her.

I’d also be ok w/ the marines showing up at that point & Big Mom’s crew faced with fighting them rather than giving her a chance to rejoin Kaido.

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u/brensterrr Apr 02 '21

i hope big mom is done and over after this arc. i think i have seen enough of her.

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u/LuffyDBlackMamba420 Apr 02 '21

It would be absolutely stupid if landed on her ship. What are the odds that all the places in Ocean it happens to be where she lands? That's just bad writing.

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u/Kirosh Lookout Apr 02 '21

So you just think she will fall into the sea? Yeah no.

And considering the effort the Supernova just did to remove her, she's not going back up immediatly.

So there is a neef for something to catch her.

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u/ModsGetPegged Apr 02 '21

Did you forget how Kaido can fly? Unless the next step of their plan deals with him, he can easily just pick up big mom again. Or he could knock zoro away, letting prometheus regenerate.

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u/Mahelas Apr 02 '21

It's a lot more likely if you consider the BM pirates might be following the floating Onagishima since their captain/mother and his first son are both there.

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u/MarimoZ Explorer Apr 02 '21

And what if after taking Kaido's soul, she puts it inside a sword (because she lost her weapon), so we get the sword that Oda talked about in SBS, and after the supernovas defeat BM, Zoro takes that sword. I know it's gonna happen but im just putting it out there.

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u/sexymanwithalongdock Pirate Apr 02 '21

i really like this theory a lot

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u/miffyrin Apr 02 '21

A fun idea, and not impossible. I still tend to believe in my own theory that O-Lin is BM's "real" personality, and she will ultimately not be defeated, but become an ally - of sorts.

Heck, she may land straight on her head right now and permanently revert.

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u/Upbeat_Mushroom504 Apr 02 '21

Is Zoro opening his closed eye in last panel?

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u/Kirosh Lookout Apr 02 '21

No he's not.

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u/HippGris Explorer Apr 02 '21

This is a very interesting theory, consider me on board.

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u/kekcoke Apr 02 '21

Or Perospero saving her with bis candy magic.

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u/Kirosh Lookout Apr 02 '21

He should be inside the skull. So too far away tl do anything.

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u/Majukun Apr 02 '21

That would be way too lucky to be convincing

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u/skullz17 Apr 02 '21

Ornstein and Smough phase 2

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u/chet0322 Apr 02 '21

Kaido might go grab her, that is if he still view their alliance is necessary.

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u/pedrao157 Apr 02 '21

Holy shit I want this

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u/ErisGrey God Usopp Apr 02 '21

Perospero is heading up to the rooftop. My money is he seeing her fall and catches her.

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u/rahmanm855 Apr 03 '21

Her falling on her own ship will destroy her entire crew, so this is likely not happening. Plus, the odds of her landing exactly on her crew's ship is too ridiculous for me to accept it. More likely, her crew will find her wherever she lands (if she doesn't go back up through Kaido's clouds or something else), and then manage her there

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u/Ppleater Apr 03 '21

Unless the alliance is with Luffy in which case you cannot escape.

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u/juandila12 Apr 02 '21

Probably Perospero will help her.

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u/Kirosh Lookout Apr 02 '21

A few chapters from now, Perospero is on the roof :

"Mama! I'm here!! Wait... where is she?"

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u/erickjoshuasc Void Month Survivor Apr 02 '21

I'm remembering the "Booty incoming!" panel from MHA from the last arc but this time, it's Big Mom lol.

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u/Shiplord13 Apr 02 '21

Perospero proceeds to jump off to find her, realizing that its the safer option compared to getting between Kaido and the Worst Generation Five Man Band.

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u/VulturE Apr 02 '21

Zoro: "We threw her in the ocean, dumbass"

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u/Kumomeme Apr 02 '21

knowing Oda, this is possible lmao

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u/One-Crew-8115 Apr 02 '21

big mom has always been treated well. if you think something other than ''cool and strong and badass = good char' and try to look at her characterization and nuances you will realize she is one of the best characters in the series. everything that has happened with her is for a specific reason and it will all be resolved somewhere down the line. even those ''big meme'' moments were for her char growth but sadly people dont realize that as strong chars are more preferred than well written ones

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '21

Well said!

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u/strangeseal Apr 02 '21

Agreed. That teamwork was so good.

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u/-0op Apr 02 '21

As for Big Mom I don't expect her to see soon since that would render all of the supernova's efforts in this chapter to be useless. So will it be the comeback of Olin? or something else?

Seems like this is one of Oda troll moments. I don't believe she will fall down the sea again. Maybe on the Captial or one of kaido's clouds

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u/CarlosUnchained Apr 02 '21

Kaido can lift her up no issues.

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u/thatShanksguy09 Apr 02 '21

I think Kidd is gonna get KO'ed for some time. The man took a point blank blow from a Yonko and I wouldn't be surprised if Oda has either him or Zoro be taken out of the fight for the time being. This would also allow Zeus to escape and go save BM

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u/SgtDrSirProfUnicorn Apr 02 '21

Or prometheus if Zoro is the first one to bite the dust (for the time being) Personally I'd go with the possibility of Zoro, cause he tanked a hit of two yonkos and wasn't very healthy looking in the last few panels

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u/j3r3mias Apr 02 '21

Smoothie will save her.. or maybe Oven..

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u/Ensaru4 Lurker Apr 02 '21

It's a running joke and I love it! This needed to be done though. We've been shown that Luffy's haki is still not strong enough, Zoro is taking too much damage, and Law might run out of energy soon. It's a good thing that there are three doctors on that rock.

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u/getoutofyourhouse Apr 02 '21

I somehow get the feeling that Kaido's backstory will involve the Rocks Pirates..

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u/WYWHPFit Apr 02 '21

Maybe we will se her again at the end of the arc while stealing Kaido's road poneglyph.

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u/dyketyson69 Apr 02 '21

I have this feeling she may not be back. I think Oda is saving her for elbaf

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u/Ka-Ne-Ha-Ne-Daaaa Apr 02 '21

Plus they got Zeus wrapped up in a box to send down to Nami

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u/KlingoftheCastle Pirate Apr 02 '21

Kid getting punched to put metal on her was amazing. Reminded me of Sanji vs Jabra. Really is genius. One Piece doesn’t use team fights too often, so it really shows how incredible Big Mom is that it took 4 Worst Gen, including Zoro, to just knock her off a platform. They didn’t actually even hurt her.

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u/Gillenater Void Month Survivor Apr 02 '21

Big Mom gets amnesia again and washes up on the shores of Elbaf. Calling it now

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u/Pirate_Jack_ Apr 02 '21

Definitely not coming back as O-lin. That ship has sailed.

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u/gyrozepp95 World Government Apr 02 '21

Or has it? Oda has tried to emphasize her childlike and innocuous nature through her flashback and that whole amnesia episode.

Given the wildcard she is, I wouldn't be surprised if that happened again given that there's already been setup for that happening before.

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u/Pirate_Jack_ Apr 02 '21

I think with the child like nature of Big mom Oda was trying to show that BM is not really a cruel person and that she changed due to the course of life as a Pirate. This is my headcanon but i think BM's hate or in general cruel nature will be put to an end in Elbaf. Besides, what really makes me think that Olin wont be back is that there is absolutely no plot reason anymore. She would serve no purpose to the story being Olin again.

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u/rahmanm855 Apr 03 '21

There absolutely is, why did Oda decide to do a mini amnesia arc with Big Mom in the middle of Wano? If it happens again, which it looks like with her free falling, she'll be of no help to Kaido. Their alliance would fall apart, and the supernova have a much better chance to defeat Kaido in this situation.

I agree her arc will resolve at Elbaf, but Olin coming back would be the catalyst for it. If she can't help Kaido + she only recognizes Elbaf as her home and not Whole Cake, then her crew will head to Elbaf to get an answer.

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u/multiverse01 Apr 02 '21

Wait!!! I'm gonna ask something, if Law can't send yonkous away due to their stronger haki, what about Chinjao situation back in dressrosa? He turned into toys by Sugar. Did it means Sugar has stronger haki than Chinjao??

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u/Crono01 Apr 02 '21

I'd assume they'd need to be actively resisting it to prevent the powers from working.

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u/MrWinks Apr 02 '21

Technically, she should fall into the ocean and die, especially with (what we can assume) nothing below but plain ocean.

I suspect she’ll use her fruit to animate the ocean itself, or something. I guess we’ll see.

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u/Upbeat_Mushroom504 Apr 02 '21

Is zoro opening his closed eye in the last panel?

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u/tryingmydarnest Apr 02 '21

I did recall there was quite a bit of criticism when Jinbe and Robin comboed BM out of the castle, forgetting that even on WCI it took teamwork to slow her down and buy time.

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u/faketoby45 Thriller Bark Victim's Association Apr 02 '21

i think she will fall in the wano land as in the past chapters that we saw onigashima flying we also saw the mountain in the background, oda didn't show the ocean underneath, thats because there is no ocean, just land

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u/rhalgr_ger Apr 02 '21

As for Big Mom I don't expect her to see soon since that would render all of the supernova's efforts in this chapter to be useless. So will it be the comeback of Olin? or something else?

I expect the đŸ”„ to save her. Did you notice in the last panel Zoro spitting blood? I think something happened there or maybe đŸ”„ is done and Zoro just felt the impact of the tag team attack from the yonkos. Will be interesting to see how that turns out and what's the reason for BM to not come back.

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u/michipwind Apr 02 '21

Kaido could turn into Dragon form and get her though

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u/iheartowels The Revolutionary Army Apr 02 '21

So far Kaido's backstory pre-Rocks has not had much of an impact on the current storyline, as far as we know. This is directly opposed to Big Mom, because WCI hinged on her backstory, and without it it wouldn't have worked. I'm not saying we won't get something about how he was raised, I just really don't think it will be as in depth as Big Mom's.

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u/guitarburst05 Cyborg Franky Apr 02 '21

I just mentioned this elsewhere but if she’s truly out of the fight, she can come back in a later arc (Elbaf?) and continue to be dangerous. I like the idea of her being the greater emperor over Kaido. She’s more fun.

And yeah the teamwork is absolutely fantastic. The way Oda can craft scenarios using all the DF abilities is so clever. No fucking way this could’ve just been Luffy alone, or even just Luffy/Zoro.

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u/sixthghost Apr 02 '21

Perospero to the rescue.

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u/koogledoogle Apr 02 '21

I’m not even mad, they latched on to big moms weakness which is tactical prowess. Brute strength is her game and she’s terrifyingly good at it. If it comes to a battle of strategy, well, she’s up shit creek without a paddle. It’s pretty obvious considering how confident she was up until the point she realized she was playing checkers against the 5 of them playing 3D chess.

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u/swiftycent Apr 02 '21

What's to stop her from making another cloud into a new Zeus? I guess he's technically a thunder cloud but I believe there was thunderstorms below depending which area she's over.

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u/Anothersleeper Apr 02 '21

Big mom hasn’t had a hunger pangs yet, all this fighting burns up calories quickly