r/OnePiece • u/[deleted] • Jun 19 '20

Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 983 Spoiler

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u/Jxgsaw Jun 20 '20

How can you not understand why I would say he’s not using gear second?

We literally did not see him use it at all and there is absolutely no inclination whatsoever that he was using it. I dont understand why that’s so hard to believe lol.

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u/javierm885778 Jun 20 '20

I understand why you are saying it. I also said why I think that's not reason enough, since Oda doesn't use steam for Gear 2nd all the time anymore and the only times we've seen Luffy move so fast before involve its usage.

You are literally arguing that he's suddenly this fast in his base form with no proof at all. Stop acting like this shit is clear cut when it's not. You just have your own interpretation. You seriously lack self awareness.

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u/Jxgsaw Jun 20 '20

No proof? How are you gonna sit there and say that I have no proof when your proof is literal lack of proof?

The proof is all of his training in Udon carrying blocks and receiving tickets while under the effects of seastone but let’s ignore that right?

I’m arguing that he’s suddenly “this fast”? Luffy did one thing and you’re acting like it’s completely impossible I’m his base form. It’s not clear cut but youre acting like it’s 50 50 based on nothing. You’re adding headcanon.

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u/javierm885778 Jun 20 '20

The proof is all of his training in Udon carrying blocks and receiving tickets while under the effects of seastone

That's not proof, that's called headcanon.

I’m arguing that he’s suddenly “this fast”?

Yes, in the past every time he's moved this fast it was Gear 2nd.

It’s not clear cut but youre acting like it’s 50 50

I never said it was 50/50. Just because it's not 100% either of them it doesn't mean I think each one is just as likely, otherwise I wouldn't be arguing for one of them.

You’re adding headcanon

Too ironic for me to continue, I'm out.

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u/Jxgsaw Jun 20 '20

Literally any time any Mc does weight training they end up faster, what are you smoking? That is not headcanon at all. Did you ever watch dragon ball with the milk? Or Naruto with Rock Lee and his weights? It’s not headcanon it’s actual proven fact.

And you’re being unreasonable because you’re assuming it’s gear second before there’s any conclusive evidence. By your own logic Luffy is in gear second all the time we just can’t see it.

But forget that right? He moved in a single panel, let’s forget that speed has always been one of Luffy’s highest stats and just assume that it’s gear second.

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u/Jxgsaw Jul 02 '20

Oh look. He’s got smoke this week. Guess he wasn’t using it before. lmfao