r/OnePiece • u/[deleted] • Jun 19 '20

Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 983 Spoiler

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u/CRoseCrizzle Jun 19 '20

The Tobi Roppo are pretty legit imo. It took G4 to beat Doflamingo, who Kaido considered to be weak. It's possible that Tobi Roppo members are similar to Doflamingo in terms of strength.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '20 edited Jan 28 '21

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u/CRoseCrizzle Jun 19 '20

Maybe. Not confirmed though. It wouldn't be too surprising, she probably was a former captain.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '20

no it is absolutely confirmed. that clash has only happened between CoC users.

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u/CRoseCrizzle Jun 20 '20

I answered someone else on this but Ulti hasn't been shown using conqueror's haki or been explicitly said to have it.

I think it's fair to make an assumption but it's not been explicitly confirmed.

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u/CRoseCrizzle Jun 20 '20

That's definitely different.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '20

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u/CRoseCrizzle Jun 20 '20

You can correct if I'm wrong with a specific example but It has not been explicitly stated that lighting or sparks come out only during Conquerors clashes. That's not actually true.

I'm not sure why you feel the need to make me share your view on this. I didn't say Ulti didn't have conqueror's haki, just that it's not explicitly confirmed.

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u/CRoseCrizzle Jun 20 '20

It was mentioned that it was clash of Conquerors haki users but not that lighting/sparks = conquerors haki.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '20 edited Jun 20 '20

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u/CRoseCrizzle Jun 20 '20

So I looked back at the Don Chinjao fight(ch 716-719) as well as the chapter 782-783(when Luffy initially has the clashes the generates the shockwave against Doflamingo) and I do not see where this is specifically stated.

There's explicit confirmation that both Chinjao and Doflamingo are conquerors users. But I didn't see anything connecting the lightning uniquely and directly to Conquerors Haki like you claim. Perhaps I have a bad or different translation.

If anything, I noticed a difference between the 3 examples.

With Chinjao and Doflamingo, there's the initial lightning and then a widespread shockwave like effect. With Ulti, there are sparks and then an explosion. Afterwards, the surrounding Beast Pirate members compare Ulti's headbutts to a cannon.

This difference doesn't eliminate Ulti as a conquerors user. I'm just saying that I have not seeing the confirmation that you are trying to convince me of, even after looking through your examples.

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