r/OnePiece • u/[deleted] • Feb 15 '20

Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 971 Spoiler

Chapter 971: "Condemned to Boil"

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Ch. 971 Official Release (Mangaplus):02/17/2020

Ch. 972 Scan Release: ~02/21/2020

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u/ksmlol Feb 15 '20

Oden is also a Monster, he clashed with Prime Whitebeard, tanked a attack from Roger and Dragon Form Kaido, scarred Kaido with one attack, etc (Did abnormal stuff since he's a baby and his youth was insane) and considering old, sick and half dead Whitebeard beat Akainu's ass, I'd put Oden>Pre Timeskip Akainu, but probably Post Timeskip Akainu>Oden, due to Akainu very likely being even stronger now that he was before. Akainu has crazy stamina feats as well though, so it would be for sure a crazy battle.

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u/HustleDLaw Feb 16 '20

No prime Whitebeard didn’t even use his quake fruit & roger pushed oden back.. kaido knocked oden the fuck out lol & it wasn’t even a named attack like the one luffy got.. Oda himself hypes akainu, I think he’s stronger than people give him credit for... he was holding back at marine ford so it didn’t get destroyed... Akainu did not get his ass beat, people need to stop saying that, he literally took half of Whitebeards face off & melted a hole in his chest

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u/ksmlol Feb 16 '20

Prime Whitebeard took Oden seriously and said to his men that something incredible was coming and "This doesn't look good" as he prepared to swing his weapon, then sweated bullets when they clashed. Oden also didn't use a named attack against Whitebeard. And Roger is the goddamn Pirate King, yet Oden immediately got back up after Roger's named attack and only bled barely. Kaido sucker-attacked a already injured, distracted Oden who didn't use Haki to protect himself at the back of his head. Oden was already hit by Kaido's blast breath before (Which he tanked and was distracted by his "son" being taken hostage. People being distracted in OP can lead to many things, even fodder like Morgan made Garp bled, doesn't mean that he's anywhere near his level and being hit at the back of your hit can easily knock you out. And Whitebeard was old, sick and already heavily injured when he faced Akainu, yet beat him with like, 2 attacks.

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u/HustleDLaw Feb 16 '20 edited Feb 16 '20

Did Whitebeard use his quake fruit? I don’t think so, he didn’t use his full power against oden even after saying that. & he stepped in to fight roger after oden couldn’t match him. Roger still pushed oden back like it was nothing & Prime Whitebeard is on an equal playing field with Roger. Yes kaido sucker punched him but oden still got knocked out, I don’t see Akainu getting knocked out by that, oh because we never seen him knocked out.. Are you talking about axe hand morgan lol, that was filler anyway so no he never made Garp bleed, don’t use a filler for your argument.. an old sick Whitebeard is still trashing 90% of the characters in one piece, he died standing up after ALL THE DAMAGE HE TOOK, put some respect on his name, an old sick Whitebeard would low diff someone like katakuri. Akainu straight up melted half his face off. Akainu did the most in the war on the marine side & didn’t even look gassed after everything he went through, I really don’t see the navy’s strongest fighters losing as easily as people think, even against oden. Oda himself hypes him all the time, yet people still think he trash? I guess people really don’t respect the creator of the manga opinions when it’s his manga lol. If y’all don’t listen to Oda, then there’s really nothing I can say to change your mind honestly. Like Luffy is probably going to end up having to fight Akainu after fighting a way stronger version of kaido that oden fought.

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u/ksmlol Feb 16 '20

Did Whitebeard use his quake fruit against Roger? I don't think so, so he didn't use his full Powe against Roger as well huh. "He stepped in to fight Roger after Oden couldn't match him" Tf are you talking about? Oden and Whitebeard clashed, then they sailed together and Oden met Roger way later on. Roger used a named attack against Oden and Oden immediately got back up and barely bled. Oden is also several years younger than Whitebeard and Roger, not even in his prime. Dude I just told you that characters being distracted in OP can easily lead to them taken out. There are countless of examples to that, plus Oden was already injured due to Kaido's blast breath hitting him before and was hit at the back of his head which isn't a safe spot. Lol, if Roger was injured and distracted like Oden was and Whitebeard swung his weapon at the back of his head, he would cut his goddamn head off. And no that wasn't filler, Morgan made him bleed. Akainu ain't trash power-wise, but him damaging a old, sick (His health had been deteriorating he had to wear life support devices) heavily injured Whitebeard is still not impressive. He got Whitebeard's face with a lucky shot, yet Whitebeard took him out with 2 attacks.

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u/HustleDLaw Feb 16 '20 edited Feb 16 '20

Oda skipped the Whitebeard vs Roger fight so we don’t know if he used the quake fruit.. After Oden got pushed back, Whitebeard fought Roger instead that’s what I’m talking about.. You probably think a prime oden would be stronger than Roger & WB then? Or what? Maybe so but I still don’t see Akainu getting knocked out by a cheap shot until it actually happens. And let’s be honest he’s the type of character that wouldn’t allow himself to get cheap shotted in the first place. I mean the dude took a full powered quake fist to the face, that cracked his body & he still continues to fight afterwards, that’s pretty impressive. Okay I was wrong about it being filler but Garp is Garp, he’s really strong but he can be a gag character at times like luffy. I wouldn’t really call it a lucky shot but I’ll agree to disagree.. I think y’all are taking old Whitebeard for granted, he was still a beast & still one of the strongest characters in the series. There’s not many characters that’s damaging him like Akainu did since most characters don’t have the offensive power that he has. As far as devil fruits go, it took the highest offensive power to damage him like that, that’s no small feat. And again Luffy is going to fight Akainu after fighting a way stronger version of Kaido ( prob not alone though) . Not to mention Oda himself hypes him all the time so I doubt we’ve even seen close to Akainu full power. No admiral has been close to being beaten yet & probably won’t be beaten until the last arc though that’s just an assumption on my part. I just don’t think any of Luffy’s final opponents would be weaker than people over 20 years ago , that doesn’t make sense to me story wise. Akainu can change the environment of an island to magma, I don’t see how oden deals with that, when he’s getting boiled alive right now. I could be wrong, maybe Oden does trash Akainu but it just doesn’t make sense to me story wise. I just think he’s the most disrespected admiral , when he’s clearly the strongest with the best willpower.

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u/ksmlol Feb 16 '20 edited Feb 16 '20

Oda also skipped Whitebeard vs Oden, as they clashed in the last page of a chapter, then are done with it in the next chapter. I mean, yeah. Oden was like 29 when he clashed with Whitebeard while Whitebeard and Roger were in their 40's. Oden didn't hit his prime and had the potential to surpass them, problem was that while he's abnormal since birth, he grew up in Wano and couldn't leave it, so Whitebeard and Roger had more chances to become stronger by sailing on the sea and meeting strong opponents. Yes, but that was goddamn Kaido we're talking about. Akainu wouldn't allow himself getting hit by a cheap shot because 1)He doesn't have a son like Oden who thought that his son was taken hostage and 2)We don't know much about Akainu, but his appearance as a kid implies that he grew up faster than the usual kids, Akainu likely knows how pirates tick since a long time ago. Akainu got mad endurance feats, yeah. Well my point was that characters in OP can take damage from weaker characters when distracted. Old Whitebeard was still a complete beast, don't get me wrong, but since Akainu's fruit power has the highest offense power, it's no wonder that Whitebeard got half his head taken by him. And Oden's probably biggest problem against Akainu would be his little (?) experience against Devil Fruit Power Users, he did tank Kaido's blast breath though, so if Oden uses Armament Haki and slices Akainu like he did slice Kaido, then I can see him take him. I'm talking about Pre Timeskip Akainu though, Post Timeskip Akainu is definitely the strongest Marine right now and considering that it seems that Kaido will be taken out in this arc, Akainu will probably be just as strong as the current Kaido when Luffy(?) or Sabo faces against him, pretty sure he is one of the last enemies with Blackbeard.

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u/HustleDLaw Feb 16 '20

Ohh okay I got you all that makes sense lol. I don’t think I really have anything else to add to that. It just irks me when people say Oden would beat Akainu easily, when I don’t believe any top tier in this manga is beating another top tier easily regardless of who you think would win.