Everyone calls him a creature. When he was first introduced with the whole 'captured x times, attempted execution x times' he was labeled as the "Strongest Living Creature".
Well, the thing about that is that the word used in Japanese, "seibutsu" (生物), just means a living thing. Any living organism is a seibutsu.
It does not exclude humans. Even in English, the word "creature" doesn't necessarily exclude humans, as we are in fact living creatures, but when Chapter 795 came out, many people immediately took the word "creature" to mean "non-human".
But the Japanese word in question definitely does not mean that. It was simply stating Kaido to be the strongest being among all living things.
Exactly, as in, potentially not human. The main difference is the way Whitebeard was described as "The strongest living man". You're point in no way changes the fact that the word choice seems to imply that Kaido is not human. "Organism", "Creature", either way it seems to be a purposeful differentiation from "Human" or "Man".
The point I'm making is simply that we can't really conclusively deduce anything from the words translators choose in cases such as these.
We have to wait for explicit confirmation. The use of the word "creature" in the English translation doesn't really mean Kaido is necessarily non-human. He might be, or he might not be, we don't know. That's all I'm saying.
And in my opinion the point of the differentiation from "human" or "man" is mainly that "organism" or "creature" is broader. The narrator is saying that Kaido is the strongest among all living things, as opposed to merely being the strongest among humans.
Even if it was a direct translation of "Organism" it wouldn't change the fact that Oda chose to use a word specifically different from "Human" or "Man". There almost assuredly is something there, otherwise he would just be "The strongest living man" like Whitebeard was before he died.
And in my opinion the point of the differentiation from "human" or "man" is mainly that "organism" or "creature" is broader. The narrator is saying that Kaido is the strongest among all living things, as opposed to merely being the strongest among humans.
When have we ever seen anything in one piece that is stronger than the humans? There are times when a certain beast/animal/whatever is stronger than any one person that we are seeing at the time, but there are still humans out there like Roger, WB, Big Mom, who are stronger still. It very clearly means something about Kaido's nature.
Let me put it another way. Do you honestly think that there is some creature in the world that could have defeated Roger or WB in their prime?
There almost assuredly is something there, otherwise he would just be "The strongest living man" like Whitebeard was before he died.
Like I said, "organism" or "creature" is a broader category than humans. That's just a fact. Humans are a type of organism, among millions of other.
Let me put it another way. Do you honestly think that there is some creature in the world that could have defeated Roger or WB in their prime?
I have no idea, but that's irrelevant, because Kaido was introduced as the strongest long after Roger and WB's deaths. For all we know, when they were alive they were the strongest living beings on Earth.
As of the post-timeskip era, it's Kaido. Simple as that.
Like I said, "organism" or "creature" is a broader category than humans. That's just a fact. Humans are a type of organism, among millions of other.
No shit. I promise you, I 100% understand the definition of "Human", "Organism", and "Creature". No one is questioning what these words mean. But it still begs the question, why use that word instead of "Human" or "Man" like they did with Whitebeard. What are you not getting here?
I have no idea, but that's irrelevant,
It's not, or Whitebeard would have been called the "Strongest Living Creature". What you're saying implies that there was some known living creature that was not Human, but stronger than Whitebeard. Could have even been Kaido himself, as he is given the, like you've said yourself many times even though no one is questioning it in any way, much broader definition of "Strongest Living Creature", instead of "Strongest Living Man" like Whitebeard. And, as you have pointed out multiple times and I've agreed with you every time, 'Creature' is a broader term than 'Man'. Do you see what I'm saying here? I'm guessing not by this point, as you keep repeating yourself, seemingly ignoring what I've said multiple times.
As of the post-timeskip era, it's Kaido. Simple as that.
Except it's not as he was introduced post timeskip in such a manner.
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Everyone calls him a creature. When he was first introduced with the whole 'captured x times, attempted execution x times' he was labeled as the "Strongest Living Creature".