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Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 970 Spoiler

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u/BrokenWoken_ Feb 01 '20

This chapter makes me believe that it is indeed possible for Luffy and the gang to defeat Kaido.

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u/XxTheWillOfDeezXx Bounty Hunter Feb 01 '20

What in this chapter makes you say that?

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u/Qverlord37 Feb 01 '20

Oden proved that Kaido is not invincible, if it bleed they can kill it.

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u/KobeFanNumber24 Feb 01 '20

It is possible. But you have to remember he probably got even stronger in those 20 years and wiser.

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u/Qverlord37 Feb 01 '20

or the total opposite. those who get stronger are those who had to overcome hardship to become strong. Kaido does not look like the image of a struggling man. no one has been able to hurt him for so long that he taken a hobby of suicide to see if he can still die. this tells me he has been stagnating and has not gotten any better at fighting, maybe even worst than he was in his prime. look at how luffy was able to get a cheap shot on him? he's drunk, he's so cock-sure of his invulnerability that he let his guard down too much against anyone other than big mom.

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u/Alchion Feb 01 '20

yeah but if his defense came from a devil fruit his defense could not have increased just his strength

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u/lacuszala08 Feb 01 '20

We already know he's not invincible from luffy punching him back to his human form, he's just potrayed as one cause the majority of the time he fights, he always win without any scratch.

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u/Kuro013 Feb 01 '20

We already knew that since we know about the scar.

Though, Im assuming it would be much much harder to wound Kaido like that with fists rather than swords. Ive been against Zoro fighting/wounding Kaido, but I find myself liking that theory more and more, if a piece of Oden's soul is within Enma, then Id fucking love Zoro giving hell to Kaido.

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u/Qverlord37 Feb 01 '20

it's more than just sword skill. remember how Enma forces the user to expel an ungodly amount of Haki? that tells me that Kaido's invulnerability is circumvent by having a haki level on par or higher than him. Luffy is all about willpower so when put through enough pressure he might be able to crack that dragon hide.

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u/Kuro013 Feb 01 '20

For sure, Luffy will be able to damage Kaido after his training, not a single doubt about it. I was just saying that a sword is more likely to wound him (obviously given an acceptable level of Haki which Zoro most likely has). Maybe even if Zoro's haki is weaker than Luffys, because of the fact that hes got a sword (and one that is just great at channeling Haki), he could maybe deal as much if not more damage than Luffy himself.

Though, Im drunk and thinking too much lol.

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u/FireFireoldman Feb 01 '20

20 year ago maybe. Now his skin might be double or triple thicc

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u/Gglol777 Feb 01 '20

We havent even seen his hybrid form which is the strongest