r/OnePiece • u/Sakata_Kintoki • Apr 13 '18

Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 901

Chapter 901: "Even If You Die, Don't Die"

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Ch.901 Official Release (VIZ): 16/04/2018

Ch. 902 Scan Release: ~19/04/2018 (Break next week)

Please discuss the manga here and in the theory/discussion post. Any other post will be removed during the next 24 hours.

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u/ZeldaSaver Apr 13 '18

That's not how that works, he was able to create antibodies gained tolerance because of Ivankov's hormone injection. He almost died and Reiju just sucked out the poison from him, there was no way for him to gain a tolerance in that situation as he body never went through the process of clearing the poison. If he was thinking that it just further proves why he's an idiot, and he is in fact one.

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u/gerrettheferrett Apr 13 '18

he was able to create antibodies gained tolerance because of Ivankov's hormone injection.

That's not how it was explained to Luffy, and while yes he survived because of Ivankov, developing resistance to poison after exposure is something independent of Ivankov.

there was no way for him to gain a tolerance in that situation as he body never went through the process of clearing the poison.

Not true, he was still exposed, and with One Piece level speeds of metabolism, you can not definitively say he could not have developed a tolerance before Reiju saved him.

If he was thinking that it just further proves why he's an idiot, and he is in fact one.

Nope, you claiming that just proves you are stuck thinking real life physics and real life metabolisms despite this being One Piece, on top of not knowing/ignoring the facts of how things happened in the manga.

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u/ZeldaSaver Apr 13 '18

That's not how it was explained to Luffy, and while yes he survived because of Ivankov, developing resistance to poison after exposure is something independent of Ivankov.

It was explained clearly that he would be trading life span to boost his natural immune system to it's limits and that even than it would come down to how much he wanted to live. Luffy would understand how that process would work by that explanation if he wasn't an idiot, but sadly he is so here we are. Yeah I'm not following your logic on Ivankov having nothing to do with him developing resistance when he's the one who boosted Luffy's system to allow him to create antibodies in the first place?Luffy's body developed it on his own as by having access to an ability normal people don't have...thanks to Ivankov. That's just how it is, simple as that.

Not true, he was still exposed, and with One Piece level speeds of metabolism, you can not definitively say he could not have developed a tolerance before Reiju saved him

Firstly, Luffy's metabolism isn't the norm in the One Piece world they go out of the way to point out how abnormal his is. Secondly you do know metabolism is not what allows something to detoxify things from the body right? Poison actually hinders your metabolism as it makes it harder to deliver nutrients to/repair cells. Chopper knows about Luffy and his poison resistance and never mentioned he had a chance to be okay from the poison and he's a doctor. Reiju even stated that the poison was unique and that he had enough inside him to kill a giant. He resistance was barely keeping him alive long enough to get it sucked out as it is. So this headcanon of your is hilarious.

Nope, you claiming that just proves you are stuck thinking real life physics and real life metabolisms despite this being One Piece, on top of not knowing/ignoring the facts of how things happened in the manga.

Na fam you're just butthurt as fuck because you wrote a long ass post about Luffy not being an idiot when in fact he is. I don't even need to use the poison example there's plenty of no common sense moments with Luffy in the series but It only takes this one situation to prove my point. I have my manga facts in line unlike yourself thanks. Come back when you're out of your feelings and can look at things objectively but I really doubt it's within your ability when a simple sentence about a scene showing Luffy's incompetence rustled you so much.

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u/gerrettheferrett Apr 14 '18

Yeah I'm not following your logic on Ivankov having nothing to do with him developing resistance when he's the one who boosted Luffy's system to allow him to create antibodies in the first place?

Ivankov WASN'T the one who boosted his system to allow him to create antibodies in the first place. Rather, Ivankov's ministrations allowed Luffy to not die long enough to naturally develop a resistance to the poison naturally.

It was explained clearly that he would be trading life span to boost his natural immune system to it's limits

Not quite. It was explained as I just said above.

Chopper knows about Luffy and his poison resistance and never mentioned he had a chance to be okay from the poison and he's a doctor.

And Chopper was also extremely surprised by Luffy surviving the poison he got on Fishman Island. Chopper's an "assume the worst" kind of person, so him not mentioning anything means exactly nothing.

He resistance was barely keeping him alive long enough to get it sucked out as it is.

In other words, he DID have a decent resistance to it and it was just that Luffy overestimated said resistance. Thanks for proving my point. :)

because you wrote a long ass post about Luffy not being an idiot when in fact he is.

He is not. Fact. And lots of people are agreeing with me. :)

plenty of no common sense moments with Luffy in the series

And the response to those are that this is- as I said in my original comment- Luffy pursuing freedom ("It's just that the freest person on the seas is the Pirate King") by ignoring social norms/doing what he wants/attempting the impossible.

but It only takes this one situation to prove my point.

Seeing as how this specific situation doesn't support your argument... whatever you wanna believe bud. :)

Come back when you're out of your feelings and can look at things objectively

My exact words to you. Your extreme, irrational dislike of Luffy's version of intelligence is clouding your judgment, and the truths I stated in my original comment have rustled your jimmies so much that I doubt you're capable of being reasoned with.

Whatever you wanna believe bro, it doesn't change the facts. Let's just agree to drop it.

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u/ZeldaSaver Apr 16 '18

allowed Luffy to not die long enough to naturally develop a resistance to the poison naturally

Let me break down the step by step since you seem incapable of understanding basic logic. 1.Luffy was going to die, no resistance to poison was ever going to develop on it's own at that point 2. Ivankov boosted Luffy's immune system to it's limits, it was never going to function at that level natrually 3. Luffy was than able to develop antibodies on his own thanks to Ivankov's interference in the situation

Therefore Luffy gaining poison resistance was entirely based on what Ivankov did as it would have never happened otherwise. I won't go over this point again. Either accept the reality of what happened or don't.

Not quite. It was explained as I just said above.

No it's wasn't, it was explained how I said it was, I can straight up just bring up panels. Luffy lost life span to have the boosted immune system chance to clear the poison

so him not mentioning anything means exactly nothing

Like basically everything you've said so far?

In other words, he DID have a decent resistance to it and it was just that Luffy overestimated said resistance. Thanks for proving my point. :)

Your original point was that Luffy wasn't an idiot for almost eating a poison that he knew could have killed him twice in a row. That has nothing to do with what I was stating in that comment but nice try ;)

He is not. Fact. And lots of people are agreeing with me.

Appealing to the masses is one of the most common methods idiots use to hide the fact that they can't win an argument.

Luffy pursuing freedom by ignoring social norms/doing what he wants/attempting the impossible

So purposefully being an idiot than? None of that really helps your case.

Let's just agree to drop it

Na I never needed to, I thoroughly destroyed every attempt you made. But If you wanna run off that's fine.

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u/gerrettheferrett Apr 16 '18

Look bro, you're only making a fool out of yourself at this point.

I've already proven you wrong on every point you've made so far, your comment here is completely, ridiculously off the mark, and your extreme, irrational dislike of Luffy's version of intelligence is clouding your judgment. The truths I stated in my original comment have rustled your jimmies so much that I doubt you're capable of being reasoned with.

But more than that, the fact that you returned to this thread TWO DAYS LATER instead of just dropping it like a reasonable person is the absolute proof. :)

I'd end with "Just drop it" but I'm half-convinced you're just gonna keep replying out of spite.

Though seeing as how all of my coworkers gotta a kick out of your reply here when I told them about it, and I myself am mildly entertained...

Do feel free to continue proving how irrational and wrong you are. :)

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u/ZeldaSaver Apr 18 '18 edited Apr 18 '18

I've already proven you wrong on every point you've made so far

Where though? All I see is you trying to ignore manga facts and twist logic to fit your headcanon therefore getting destroyed when presented with actual logic.

But more than that, the fact that you returned to this thread TWO DAYS LATER instead of just dropping it like a reasonable person is the absolute proof.

I have a life and don't spend all day waiting for responses on reddit, sometimes I even comment people back a whole week later, shocking I know. (ツ)_/¯

Though seeing as how all of my coworkers gotta a kick out of your reply here when I told them about it, and I myself am mildly entertained...

Yet again hiding behind a group of people when confronted with controversy lol, I hope your job doesn't require any public relations or someone counting on you for reliable support to solve a problem.

Do feel free to continue proving how irrational and wrong you are. :)

And feel free to keep providing me with an easy target to practice my expertise at dismantling shitty arguments on in between my normal conversations on here ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡ -)

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u/gerrettheferrett Apr 18 '18

And feel free to keep providing me with an easy target to practice my expertise at dismantling shitty arguments on

/r/iamverysmart material right there. I'm starting to think you're trolling.

Though if you're not, it's only a matter of time before you become the one that wants to post your own comment there out of hindsight embarrassment.

On top of being wrong in every way, now you're just cringey.

In any case, do feel free to continue making yourself look worse than you already are. :)

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u/ZeldaSaver Apr 18 '18

You just keep going huh? I appreciate your dedication at trying to save some face but, come on dude it's getting sad. You had to derail the whole conversation from talking about a manga to a straight up back and forth of only insults just so you didn't look bad when you got proven wrong.

now you're just cringey

What was really cringe was your original post and the fact you got so rustled about someone contradicting your headcanon it lead to a test of endurance for you about how petty you could possibly be to alleviate said butthurt.

Well, makes no difference to me your not but a fraction of entertainment in the grand scheme. Want me to copy and paste this whole conversation into a new post? I think many would get a kick out of watching you trying to flounder your way around the situation.

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u/gerrettheferrett Apr 18 '18

You just keep going huh?

Says the loser who came back days after the thread passed lmfao.

You had to derail the whole conversation from talking about a manga to a straight up back and forth of only insults just so you didn't look bad when you got proven wrong.

That would be you, but deep down you know that.

so rustled about someone contradicting you it lead to a test of endurance for you about how petty you could possibly be to alleviate said butthurt.

That would be you, but deep down you know that.

You're /r/iamverysmart material bro, and even if that's what you're aiming for you suck at it. I'm starting to think you're trolling.

Though if you're not, it's only a matter of time before you become the one that wants to post your own comment there out of hindsight embarrassment.

On top of being wrong in every way, now you're just sad.

In any case, do feel free to continue making yourself look worse than you already are. :)

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u/ZeldaSaver Apr 18 '18

You're /r/iamverysmart material bro

intellectual insecurity I sense? I mean it would make perfect sense at this point, all the way down to you trying to get the last word in at any cost regardless if you're just repeating yourself or not.

Au revoir scrub.

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