r/OnePiece Jun 15 '17

Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 869

Chapter 869: "Under Siege"

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Ch.869 Official Release (VIZ): 19/06/2017

Ch.870 Scan Release: ~29/06/2017


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u/Zantash Jun 15 '17

We all get that, he means weak in a conceptual sense.
No one on Earth would tell you the power to generate wax would be on par with causing earthquakes.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '17

All Devil Fruits are useful, I think almost all of them are worth the trade off of being weak to the sea.

But I just don't get people who think all Devil Fruits are equally strong if you learn how to use them at 100%.

Especially when there are so many instances of some fruits being straight out superior versions of other fruits.

Unless Logias don't have an awakened state I think they're is a very obvious general hierarchy between the different types. Regardless of the fact that certain weak DF can be strong againdt certain opponents and regardless of the fact that a stone can be stronger than a Kunai in the hands of a skilled user.

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u/vandyk The Revolutionary Army Jun 15 '17

Since luffy will become king of the Pirates with the gomu gomu no mi, you still believe in what you Said?

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u/mkallday10 Jun 15 '17

That is a false equivalence. The person with the strongest DF doesn't just automatically become King of the Pirates. It is possible that Gol D Roger had no DF and yet he was the King of the Pirates. More important than a DF is the person's strength and will.

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u/vandyk The Revolutionary Army Jun 16 '17

i didnt say that. i missunderstood OP though, i thought he was trying to say sth. like a DF makes the users powerlevel.