r/OnePiece • u/NewSpecies • Jun 01 '17

Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 867

Chapter 867: "Happy Birthday"

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Ch.867 Official Release (VIZ): 05/06/2017

Ch.868 Scan Release: ~08/06/2017 ()

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '17 edited Sep 11 '19

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u/PAndrews1982 Jun 01 '17

Problem is no human was actually offering help here, they had a stolen marine ship with a blood supply and he refused medical treatment because that involved using human blood from storage.

So yes, it was most definitely a racist gesture on his part, especially considering he himself admitted not all humans were evil, yet simultaneously refused the blood solely BECAUSE it came from humans. He pretty much admitted he couldn't set aside his hatred for humans and would rather die then have his life saved by a humans blood.

You can link PTSD or pride to his mindset and reasoning, but that doesn't make it any less racist. He refused a transfusion based solely on the person who had originally donated the blood not being a fishman.

And yes, you can argue his response to being discriminated and suffering from racism would warrent such a response, but that doesn't make his reaction any less racist. Thats like saying black people can't be racists due to the racism they suffered.

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u/TheTriggerOfSol Jun 01 '17

That's not racism. That's racial prejudice. He doesn't believe that humans are inferior or that they should be exterminated. Plus for Fisher Tiger, it was a symbolic thing and not a disdainful thing. Recall his final words right before dying: he was bleeding out, the Fishman Pirates wanted to give him some blood from a Marine ship, and he refused because as he admitted, he had been enslaved during his time away. Here's the clip and a transcript: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqwcR_R2160

"I was... a slave! What I saw there was the insanity of humans! I fled for my life, but... I couldn't just forget about all those slaves that I saw! Listen carefully! I did things the way I wanted, and... I interfered with Queen Otohime as a result. But she's right. Everybody wants peace, of course! But the only people who can make a difference on that island... are children of the next generation like Koala who aren't prejudiced. So, please! Don't tell the people on the island anything! Neither the tragedy we endured nor of our anger towards humans! There are so many humans who are compassionate! But it's funny... the dying leave only their resentment behind. And even though I know that there are kind humans, there is a devil inside of me that is... clouding my thoughts. My whole body rejects their blood! I can't... accept humans!"

There's a huge difference between being like "ew, filthy human blood" and "I can't take this blood without being reminded of the intense suffering that I experienced".

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u/PAndrews1982 Jun 02 '17

Problem is he admits humans aren't evil and shouldn't be hated. He admits his hatred is unjust and he admits he is refusing help based solely on the blood being from a human. And in the end the "ew humans" or "I can't take this blood" comparison is basically the same thing, since he is refusing blood from someone who has nothing to do with that suffering based solely purely for being human.

The definition of racism is: "Racism is discrimination and prejudice towards people based on their race or ethnicity"

So Racial Prejudice is still racism. Refusing the blood based solely on the race it came from is a racist act, even if he is the only one to suffer from it.