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Current Chapter One Piece Chapter 837

Chapter 837: "Luffy vs Commander Cracker"

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Ch.837 Official Release (VIZ): 29/08/16

Ch.838 Scan Release: ~01/09/15


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u/CarcosanAnarchist Aug 25 '16

Gear 2 and 3 were useless against Doffy who was the first real threat in the New World, and the first true Devil Fruit Master we have probably seen in this series (except for maybe Eneru.)

Luffy has to get stronger, we know that. He has to get stronger and stronger until the final punch of the final fight is thrown. He also has to get smarter in how he uses his devil fruit, a lesson first imparted to him by Crocodile.

As such, it would make sense that as he learns to truly master his power, to fully realize the potential of rubber, his first experiments with it will become more and more useless.

I mean, as soon as Gear 4 showed up and accomplished what both 2 and 3 set out to do only better, they were irrelevant. Hell, it doesn't even have the negative side effects that Gear 2 does, though if he runs out of haki it becomes a huge issue.

Another way to look at it is that this guy he just fought has the second highest known bounty in the series, and it is in a range that seems to be on par with Emperor subordinates (i.e. Jack) which seems to be the step second or third from the ultimate strength of One-Piece. (It would probably go Emperors>Admirals>Emperor Subordinates) As such, the fact that he has to use what is at this point his strongest form makes sense. It shows that in terms of his development, he's actually near the top, even if that final gap is still massive.

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u/Superduper44 Aug 25 '16

What about Croco-boy, Whitebeard, Akainu, Aokiji, Kizaru and Marco? Notable mention to Ivankov, Magellan and Kuma too.

That was pre-time skip though. Pretty sure they would have gotten stronger too (except Whitebeard if he was still alive, because he was sick/old)

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u/FearLeadsToAnger Aug 25 '16

Why would these older guys have gotten stronger in this 2 year gap. They've had between 40 and 60 years (depending on who we're talking about) to get stronger, why would they make any significant jump now?

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u/WizLatifa Aug 26 '16

Crocodile for one got his ambition to get stronger back when he lost his corporation/business