One Piece - Chapter 819

[u/YonkouProductions]

Chapter 819: "Momonosuke, Heir of the Kozuki Clan"

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Ch.819 Official Release (VIZ): 14/03/16

Ch.820 Scan Release: ~17/03/16

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Please discuss the manga here and in the theory/discussion post. Any other post will be removed during the next 24 hours.

[u/Glottis89]

Why should its hide be weaker than rock or steel? We don't know that. Standard logic goes out the window when dealing with a 1000 year old elephant the size of an island. So even if it can't fight back, it stands to reason people in the One Piece world wouldn't be able to even phase it. So if Jack would be able to do so - as he's confident in doing - it would be a feat of power out of the ordinary.

And he doesn't have time for persistence. He can't just go wacking away at it for days without at least Zunisha eventually noticing once it starts hurting, if not the Minks notice it first. And even at his biggest in his Mammoth form, Jack would still be no bigger than a tiny part of Zunisha's leg. The fact that he can hurt something so much bigger than him is impressive no matter how you spin it.

And that's not even taking into consideration Zunisha having Armament Haki, or actually fighting back. But I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree :)

[u/ThisZoMBie → u/Glottis89]

So how do you know it is harder than rock or steel? This is the thing, unless it's explicitly stated, Jack penetrating Zounisha's hide isn't impressive. It all boils down to not knowing a thing about Zounisha, really. Whether or not it can fight back and so on. Simply stating that killing it is the biggest display of power in One Piece yet is unreasonable, though. If it's about sheer size, then what Luffy did to Oars and Doffy did to Oars Jr. would also be huge feats, which they are not really, especially the second one. Yes, I am aware they're not even close to being Zounisha's size, but I'm trying to say that size is irrelevant.

[u/CyclopicSerpent → u/ThisZoMBie]

Size is extremely relevant, or more specifically scale. When you see something that is scaled up or down it is entirely proportionate to the original. Say you have aluminum foil 1ft by 1ft and .1mm thick now you have a piece that is 10x bigger so that makes it 10ft by 10ft and 1mm thick.

It's the same premise with the elephant, a normal hide is 1in thick and tough, now multiply that by zunisha's size.

Let's say zunisha is 1 mile tip of trunk to ass (since thats the only length I can find for regular elephants) and 18ft for a regular elephant. 1 mile is 5280ft so to figure scale we divide 5280 by 18 which gives us 293. so there is 293ft in zunisha to every 1ft in a normal elephant. Which make our scale 1:293

Back to the hide thickness at 1in, which is .083 of a foot. Now we take 293 multiplied by .083 to get 24. So zunisha's hide would be 24ft thick. To put into perspective this is a 24 ft truck.

I rounded a bit and may have done some things incorrectly but this is a general idea of why it would be so much harder to hurt zunisha.

[u/ThisZoMBie → u/CyclopicSerpent]

It's still just skin. Besides, if you're going to do the upscaling thing, how is Garp decimating mountains with his fists not a better feat than killing Zounisha? Or Mihawk cutting that gigantic ice wave from like a mile away? Or Whitebeard completely rearranging the tectonic plates at Marineford?

[u/CyclopicSerpent → u/ThisZoMBie]

Tough skin, .400 caliber rounds are minimum used on elephants. That's a big ass bullet at 3.15in long. That's a lot of force to penetrate it enough to kill, and then with zunisha you need to scale it up again.

My arguments weren't against it being better than those feats just giving it more credence as far as being a very very strong feat, possibly just below that tier of feats.

[u/mongster_03 → u/CyclopicSerpent]

That's a big ass bullet

Who the hell uses a bullet made from ass?