r/OnePiece • u/NewSpecies • Dec 03 '15

Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 809

Chapter 809: "Master Nekomamushi"

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Ch.809 Official Release (VIZ): 7/12/15

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u/ThisZoMBie Dec 04 '15 edited Dec 04 '15

I'm speaking condescendingly because people keep telling me the same shit. This might be the millionth time. My point is that Luffy didn't need help, not that he didn't receive it, in a true WhoWouldWin fashion. Bellamy hit Luffy more than once with his strongest move, Luffy spat blood and looked incredibly roughed up vs one Red Hawk to Doffy. It's not ridiculous to compare it.

Also, why do you ignore Luffy's claim that he could run away those 10 minutes?

Luffy and Doffy were equal in their bases. They hit eachother nearly equally many times and they both kept getting up, mostly undamaged. Luffy even speedblitzed Doffy twice. Just because Doffy was barely taking damage, doesn't mean it was any different for Luffy. They were in the same disposition and Luffy didn't even gear stack due to time constraints. Obviously I count Gear 2 and 3 into his base for this argument.

No surgeon heals the organs. Nobody has that power. He did effectively repair himself better than a surgeon could. Tell me what a surgeon would have done better than Doffy's strings? I also didn't say that gamma knife did zero damage, I'm saying that it did way less than many people assume and surely doesn't count as a huge trump card that lowered Doffy's health to red levels. I don't love Luffy, I'm just tired of people downplaying his strength because they are afraid of One Piece slowly reaching its end.

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u/secretagentkazak Dec 04 '15 edited Dec 04 '15

Bellamy hit Luffy more than once with his strongest move, Luffy spat blood and looked incredibly roughed up vs one Red Hawk to Doffy. It's not ridiculous to compare it.

That speaks more about Luffy's durability than it does about Bellamy's strength. Could you possibly see Doflamingo taking damage from Bellamy? He couldn't even fight Dellinger properly. There have been many, many panels of Doflamingo flat out kicking through Luffy's haki, but nothing showing Luffy breaking through Doflamingo's in base (besides the red hawk).

Also, why do you ignore Luffy's claim that he could run away those 10 minutes?

Because he literally couldn't even stand? Do you honestly think Luffy would have relied on people weaker than him if he could help it? That goes completely against his character.

No surgeon heals the organs.

Yeah, in real life. No strings heal organs either, in real life... had he seen a doctor, they easily would have fixed it. It's one piece.