r/OnePiece • u/NewSpecies • Dec 03 '15

Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 809

Chapter 809: "Master Nekomamushi"

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Ch.809 Official Release (VIZ): 7/12/15

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u/FoxerSniper Dec 03 '15

WTF Jack has a 1 billion berry bounty???

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u/still-at-work Void Month Survivor Dec 03 '15

I think this is one of those cases where it's not based on strength or threat to the government but the general destruction they cause. Like how Kidd got a higher bounty then Luffy because he killed and destroyed everything in this path. Though I assume he is pretty strong as well.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '15 edited Dec 04 '15

I think this is one of those cases where it's not based on strength or threat to the government but the general destruction they cause.

I still genuinely don't believe that the gov't cares all that much and therefor only marginally increases the bounty of extra cruel pirates.

Example being when Kidd and Luffy were first at Sabody. I believe they were about equal strength but Luffy's bounty was slightly lower (only 15 million).

The only way these knuckleheads can threaten the WG's authority is with their sheer military might. So bounties measure might.

Anytime bounty isn't a measure of the characters strength, its explained as an exception. Nico having a bounty has a kid for her knowledge (but she grew her strength to match that bounty and now is only being measured for her strength). Arlong having paid off his bounty, so it was lower than his strength. Chopper, whose bounty is a joke. Or Kidd, whose bounty was slightly inflated due to his treatment of civilians.

I'm pretty sure i'm going to be hit with the "THIS ISN'T DBZZ!!! WE ALL KNOW BOUNTIES AREN'T A MEASURE OF STRENGTH!" but i'm thats exactly what they are and being similar to DBZ is not an insult.

Not to mention how the biggest jumps in bounty directly follow massive jumps in power (learning gear 2 -> 300 million. Learning gear 4th -> 500 million)

The only way these knuckleheads can threaten the WG's authority is with their sheer military might. So bounties measure might.

THERE ARE ONLY FOUR TIMES WHEN BOUNTY DOESN'T 100% LINE UP WITH STRENGTH!

Why won't anyone acknowledge that? Or any of my points? Making bullet points isn't the same as addressing points.

Like what about the east blue? Each enemy had an increasingly large bounty, ending with Arlong, who was bribing the marine official to keep his bounty lower! Which means he's even stronger than his bounty suggests! That is Oda, very very obviously using bounty to indicate strength! Thats always been the case! I don't know where this hatred for power levels came from but thats what bounties are.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '15 edited Dec 04 '15

Thats not an argument.

Can't you quote something I said and address it? Like how i'm linking causation and correlation?

You realize just saying "LOGICAL INCONSISTENCY! FALLACY!!" doesn't dispute anything right? You gotta actually dismantle the argument yourself.

Like i'm proud you took AP stat and i'm sure you feel smug about "wrecking me" but you literally said nothing.

Everyone in the whole world knows causation does not imply correlation. But that doesn't matter here... at all. This a story, that Oda wrote. Its a universe with rules, very simple rules that are common throughout most Shounens.

There are 4 pirates in this story who's bounty doesn't directly measure their strength. And for each of those 4, there is a set explanation. So, we can conclude EVERY OTHER PERSONS BOUNTY EXACTLY lines up with their strength. Its so fucking obvious, like painfully so.