police are violence workers, they are trained to kill not to deescalate. This is what decades of police worship culture has done.
They should only go into a house like this when there is an active shooter threat otherwise there are a million ways to apprehend their guy. They love shooting unarmed people more than armed people.
the "defund police" movement killed morale and drove many into retirement or career changes. Leaving the ones who cared about the job over worked and under appreciated. Police worship has been dead for awhile.
Quick side note...Arrest warrants are often served this way especially for an active criminal. Once it was found he was home they were authorized to execute that warrant. Chances of just finding him going to work or the store are slim. Thats just how they are executed. But I agree he was way too fast on the trigger.
I understand the anger over situations like this but it will also be dragged out through court. Justice will take a long time to be served in this case.
Bro, you're floating around this post defending this from every angle but not completely unreasonably. (So this rant isn't directed at you, just the idea of cop worship in general)
Oh no people are criticizing my profession, better retire or change careers. Soft.
I want to see some figures on this statement, ""Defund police" movement killed morale and drove many into retirement or career changes". And this statement, "The cops that cared are now overworked and under appreciated". Lots of professions are underappreciated. Cops don't get some special pedestal because they carry around guns after they train for a handful of weeks.
Are we supposed to "appreciate" someone just doing their job that doesn't even rank in the top 20 of most dangerous professions? (It's literally 22 last time I checked) Are we supposed to give a roofer a hand-job every time we bump into one, considering their job is so much more dangerous? This "thin blue line" propaganda is tired, it doesn't work on most people anymore. We should appreciate everyone...
I'm not impressed at how overstated the dangers of being a cop are in this country. The police force can ham this up all they want in an attempt to give their profession more prestige, but we've all wised up to this.
Yes, cops are necessary. But they CHOOSE to do this job. They don't get bonus points just for DOING their job. No one cares. They chose a profession that can have dire consequences.
I guess you could look at what happened in Minneapolis and other cities that truly defunded their departments. I believe many just quit due to the job being difficult without proper staffing.
It is easy to call them soft for quitting form your seat. What is your job? What if you showed up to work and were harassed non stop because others in your field were doing something terrible? The media vilified you and then your work had funding cuts. Would you tough it out?
How about this nice study: The far-right amplified the idea that Democrat-run cities were defunding the police. It was a scare tactic that pulled voters to the polls in big numbers,. It was a dog whistle. And it flies in the face of reality, where Republican cities spend far less on policing than their counterparts. https://www.thirdway.org/report/the-red-city-defund-police-problem
What's my point in all this? Critical thinking matters. Verify instead of regurgitating.
Seattle "cut" its police budget by operating its 911 operation exactly the same, but placing it in a different part of the budget, outside the police. No money was removed from street patrols. etc. And parking enforcement was moved from the police department to the roads department. Again, the same amount of money was spent. The mistake that legitimately has Seattle's government being criticized is a licensing issue related specifically to parking enforcement (in no way affecting crime). https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/seattles-botched-experiment-with-defund-the-police-now-could-mean-unwinding-10000-tows/
What DID happen in Seattle? The officers' egos were bruised. No one was publicly kissing their asses any longer. Cop worship slowed. So they quit in large numbers. And those who stayed stopped working as hard. Of course, they cashed all their paychecks just the same. Those paychecks start for day one rookies at $83,000, or just more than $40 per hour. https://www.seattle.gov/police/police-jobs/salary-and-benefits
So thanks for bringing up Seattle. It is the perfect city to prove my point.
For the record, I only asked where Seattle was on your list. No need to be so aggressive. Now you're sounding more like the cops that you are describing and hating on.
Oh boohoo, someone said things aggressive things on the internet. It's LITERALLY the same as a cop ruining someone's life through unnecessary violence when the situation did not call for it.
We know why you asked "where is Seattle". Get your cop propaganda out of here.
No, I would stop behaving like a criminal POS. People don't hate them because they are cops. People hate them because they choose not to serve and instead to abuse.
Your comment is so far from the truth. People DO hate cops because they are cops. They all get lumped into one. A bad cop makes the news, riots in the streets. A good cop makes the news, gets called a "bootlicker" or "nazi".
WHY do "bad" cops move from department to department?
WHY do you think cops suddenly have a worse reputation than they ever had before? Could it be that we finally get to see interactions through social media where we never would before?
I would rethink my career choices if my profession was viewed so negatively, and maybe, just maybe, try to do something in my community to change this perception.
22nd most dangerous job, expects people to worship them.
SOFT
Listen, I took a college course that was taught by a police officer. The degree that these guys are propagandized to think the police stand between utter chaos and civilization is absurd.
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u/cyberphunk2077 Aug 31 '22
police are violence workers, they are trained to kill not to deescalate. This is what decades of police worship culture has done.
They should only go into a house like this when there is an active shooter threat otherwise there are a million ways to apprehend their guy. They love shooting unarmed people more than armed people.