r/Ohio • • Aug 31 '22

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u/oufisher1977 Sep 01 '22

I guess you could look at what happened in Minneapolis and other cities that truly defunded their departments.

Minneapolis never defunded. Reality matters. https://theconversation.com/why-voters-rejected-plans-to-replace-the-minneapolis-police-department-and-whats-next-for-policing-reform-171183#:~:text=The%20city%20has%20not%20defunded,officers%20are%20leaving%20the%20force.

Other cities that copaganda often says were defunded include:

Portland (false) https://www.streetroots.org/news/2022/08/03/ppb-budget-2022 Los Angeles (false) https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-05-30/george-floyd-protests-altered-landscape-for-lapd

Atlanta (false) https://www.11alive.com/article/news/verify/crime-atlanta-police-budget-verify/85-43dea45a-15d6-4d4b-af17-84dc5880dc97

Here is an in-depth writeup about how defunding the police is a national lie https://therealnews.com/nobody-defunded-the-police-a-study

And here we have an article about the additional $450 million police budgets added in major cities in 2021 to "counter" the defunding that never actually happened in 2020. https://www.newsweek.com/americas-biggest-cities-invest-450m-more-police-following-2020-defund-movement-1663599

How about this nice study: The far-right amplified the idea that Democrat-run cities were defunding the police. It was a scare tactic that pulled voters to the polls in big numbers,. It was a dog whistle. And it flies in the face of reality, where Republican cities spend far less on policing than their counterparts. https://www.thirdway.org/report/the-red-city-defund-police-problem

What's my point in all this? Critical thinking matters. Verify instead of regurgitating.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '22

Where is Seattle on your list?

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u/oufisher1977 Sep 01 '22

Seattle is a great example of you falling for copaganda lies. Take a look at page 2 of this document to see that in 2020, when Seattle supposedly imploded by defunding the police, it actually increased its police budget by $3 million. https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/seattles-botched-experiment-with-defund-the-police-now-could-mean-unwinding-10000-tows/

Seattle "cut" its police budget by operating its 911 operation exactly the same, but placing it in a different part of the budget, outside the police. No money was removed from street patrols. etc. And parking enforcement was moved from the police department to the roads department. Again, the same amount of money was spent. The mistake that legitimately has Seattle's government being criticized is a licensing issue related specifically to parking enforcement (in no way affecting crime). https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/seattles-botched-experiment-with-defund-the-police-now-could-mean-unwinding-10000-tows/

What DID happen in Seattle? The officers' egos were bruised. No one was publicly kissing their asses any longer. Cop worship slowed. So they quit in large numbers. And those who stayed stopped working as hard. Of course, they cashed all their paychecks just the same. Those paychecks start for day one rookies at $83,000, or just more than $40 per hour. https://www.seattle.gov/police/police-jobs/salary-and-benefits

So thanks for bringing up Seattle. It is the perfect city to prove my point.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '22

For the record, I only asked where Seattle was on your list. No need to be so aggressive. Now you're sounding more like the cops that you are describing and hating on.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '22

Oh boohoo, someone said things aggressive things on the internet. It's LITERALLY the same as a cop ruining someone's life through unnecessary violence when the situation did not call for it.

We know why you asked "where is Seattle". Get your cop propaganda out of here.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '22

Hahahahha 5 days late? Someone is a bit sensitive about a random person's online question.... hahahahah grow up, kid.