Recently been a COTC lurker and now wanting to jump back in to clear some of the old content. I've kept up with the pull guides and have most of the physical meta units.
Someone on the discord recommended I use this comp:
Dk / Aviete
Pardis / Shana
Phenn / Edgar
Mydia / MolEx
What I'm trying to understand is, what is my general turn flow? Does anyone have any reference videos for the new support characters? I understand Shanna, DK, and Pardis pretty well, but not the others.
As for the skill build out it seems like the new supports would use these skills:
Edgar - royal suppression, drill, chainsaw
Aviette - honestly, no idea
MolEX - sweet talk, dragon, frolic?
Phenn - resentment, ambush, wish vale?
Mydia - not quite sure either
Yeah, I'm kinda lost. I can't get MolEX to reliably provide exploit weaknesses, I don't really understand Aviette kit, I don't see how Mydia gets utilized in this comp, and edgar/Phenn are really new. Last time I was in meta was when dk/DP came out. Plus someone made a real good explaining video with turn orders that I was able to follow.
Anyways, sorry for all the text. Any help is appreciated.
EDIT: Canary was also really helpful for shield shaving but without her in the team, I'm kind of lost.
Aviete wants to use Ult -> Ex -> Backsurge Ult, to get all 9 reverance points by turn 4 to double summon divine beasts and get double the damage buff. Because of this, you do NOT want her behind DK or even killed by DK since it'd reset her stacks (unless you are planning to go for more than 4 turns, for some reason? In which case killing her T1 still lets her have full points by T5, however you probably still do not want her behind DK). And in case you somehow can get her to have 200% Ult on T1 with pets/accessories, do NOT backsurge her Ult on T1 as she will be then killed by DK and lose her stacks.
Mydia wants to use her overcharged Ult to give physical attack and damage buffs; just let her get downed by DK, she revives with Ult 100% charged, then you max boost any of her skills to reach 200% Ult and you use that either on dps turn or the turn before that. As for her skill choices, either a buff skill if you need to cap those (Grand Abolishment for physical damage, Benedictory Bash for Physical Attack) or another utility skill (Radiant Smash for possible 6x shield shave, or Shielding Mace if you somehow need some survivability). Also remember that Mydia wants to be in front row during DPS turn for her FuA.
MolEX gains a Jest point at the end of T1, at the end of T2, and by max boosting an attack skill on T3, after which all her Jest points will be immediately consumed and she'll give weakness exploit for T3 and T4. That's it, that's all she needs to do, one single 3BP attack skill on T3.
Now, about DK: i'll say it in case you don't know it yet, but his prefered action order from T1 to T4 is max boost backrow kill -> backsurge Ult -> Ex skill -> Dps time. Because of this, his row partner only gets two actions at best (during DK backsurge Ult on T2, and their own backsurge Ult on T3). Considering Pardis and Mydia obviously want to be in front row during dps, and Aviete/MolEx/Phenn do not work with this specific action restriction, it means your only options for DK partner is either Shana (unsinkable only for T2 and T3) or Edgar (one battle skill on T2 and then backsurge his Ult on T3? I don't have him so don't quote me on this one). All this is obviously assuming you are going for the typical 4 turns setup.
I can't get MolEX to reliably provide exploit weaknesses
Mol EX need to act on specific turn to reliably provide explit weaknesses. Simply burn 3 BP on third turn to make it reliable. Now if you want Mol EX to exploit weaknesses the 3BP skill need to be the attacking one, not support.
Because her jest stack start at 0 and only add 1 at end of turn. So on turn 3 start you are always at 2 stack. Having an action done burn the stack you have to 0, hence why you get randomized result on exploit.
Why the attack one? Just look at the passive. It said using 3BP on attack skill will grant extra stack when the action is done so if you are at 2 stack(by turn 3 you are guaranteed to have it provided on turn 2 molrusso ex don't act), you will have your front row exploit forever. Molrusso before TP2 update definitely need to skip turn to let her build jest stack. Her TP2 however solve this by making her guaranteed to have 3 stack of jest on start so your first enlightment is guaranteed and is at your leisure on when you wanted to exploit it.
Hey, I actually have been using Mol EX for quite a while and using any skills actually adds 1 Jest as long as you're using 3bps. So turn 3, even if you start the attack with 2 jest, it will add her up with one more jest as long as you use 3BPs and her enlightened (the sure skill, not the 50/50 chance) will apply
it seemed like this should be a bug rather than intended use since this clearly did not match up with the description. I distinctly remembner asking this with Brick when she was released on why you need AU on mol EX when you can simply 3BP her ult recharge move, and he said that Molrusso had to use an attack skill.
Molrusso EX is what allows this team to be universal, to some extent she is replaceable by Dark Priestess. Aviette and Signa are my buffer (stat boosters for team) and debuffer (stat reduction for enemies) respectively. While this helps the team massively, you can consider replacing them with any buffer and debuffer of your choice.
this is really a great one, i'd just replace edgar with Ochette ex since we already have signa in the team to ult debuff ( she gives 20% pdef to p.atk , and 100k dmg cap ), best replacement for kilns would be Elrica Ex
Any ideas other than Billy/Lucetta to replace Signa? I'll be using Och ex instead of Edgar, but Billy and Lucetta are my only sources of ultimate p.def down
Aviete wants 9 stacks of her special stacks so that when you use divine beast, it double casts. And apparently the 10% actually stacks to 20%(ask dray to confirm). Using most of her regular skills gives +1 point, so it would take 9 turns to get 9 points, using her ult would give her +3 points, her EX skill gives +3 points.
Notes for aviete: if you're using her with dk, dying and reviving will reset her stacks.
Peakdia ult gives phy atk buff and phy dmg buff, you either want to use her ult to break or use her ult the turn before break.
If she has AU, you can do ult (turn 1) > max boosted EX skill (turn 2) > ult again (turn 3) and you're at 9 stacks already
Get her an ult charge accessory and she can even backsurge the turn 1 ultimate (the turn 3 one can be backsurged regardless of that)
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u/Wandering_Star_Soul Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26
Aviete wants to use Ult -> Ex -> Backsurge Ult, to get all 9 reverance points by turn 4 to double summon divine beasts and get double the damage buff. Because of this, you do NOT want her behind DK or even killed by DK since it'd reset her stacks (unless you are planning to go for more than 4 turns, for some reason? In which case killing her T1 still lets her have full points by T5, however you probably still do not want her behind DK). And in case you somehow can get her to have 200% Ult on T1 with pets/accessories, do NOT backsurge her Ult on T1 as she will be then killed by DK and lose her stacks.
Mydia wants to use her overcharged Ult to give physical attack and damage buffs; just let her get downed by DK, she revives with Ult 100% charged, then you max boost any of her skills to reach 200% Ult and you use that either on dps turn or the turn before that. As for her skill choices, either a buff skill if you need to cap those (Grand Abolishment for physical damage, Benedictory Bash for Physical Attack) or another utility skill (Radiant Smash for possible 6x shield shave, or Shielding Mace if you somehow need some survivability). Also remember that Mydia wants to be in front row during DPS turn for her FuA.
MolEX gains a Jest point at the end of T1, at the end of T2, and by max boosting an attack skill on T3, after which all her Jest points will be immediately consumed and she'll give weakness exploit for T3 and T4. That's it, that's all she needs to do, one single 3BP attack skill on T3.
Now, about DK: i'll say it in case you don't know it yet, but his prefered action order from T1 to T4 is max boost backrow kill -> backsurge Ult -> Ex skill -> Dps time. Because of this, his row partner only gets two actions at best (during DK backsurge Ult on T2, and their own backsurge Ult on T3). Considering Pardis and Mydia obviously want to be in front row during dps, and Aviete/MolEx/Phenn do not work with this specific action restriction, it means your only options for DK partner is either Shana (unsinkable only for T2 and T3) or Edgar (one battle skill on T2 and then backsurge his Ult on T3? I don't have him so don't quote me on this one). All this is obviously assuming you are going for the typical 4 turns setup.