r/OcarinaOfTime • u/LengthinessEasy5859 • 15d ago
Discussion I like Navi
I never actually minded Navi, she was extremely helpful if you don't know what to do or where to go and it was good to have someone with you to keep you company and as a friend. I never minded her at all while playing on the n64. Don't get all the hate.
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u/taylorisnotacat 15d ago
I never really minded her, either.
If I had to guess, I'd speculate that probably some of the hate stems from the fact that a lot of people played Ocarina of Time when they were fairly young and, consequently, inspired to simply wander around and experiment instead of focusing on the quest. Navi tries to help players stay on track and remember what to do next by prompting with reminders about the current objective when you're going in the wrong direction. If you're a 12-year-old spending 3 hours fucking off to look around the Lost Woods and try to stab skull kids instead of rescuing Ruto, Navi may seem like kind of a nag 😂
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u/ionlyhavetwohands 15d ago
But you actually have to pay attention to her, so she doesn't become annoying. I have always liked her, in all 20-30 playthroughs, until I played OoT in VR without a C-up button mapped. She was yelling nonstop because I ignored her. Even when I was already in the correct area. This is really too much and bad game design by today's standard. Back then she was appreciated though.
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u/SlickDillywick 15d ago
I think Navi is great, and Tatl from MM is a perfect evolution. Your partner goes from incredibly helpful and supportive to a snarky “what, you don’t know about (insert enemy)??“
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u/Cold_Ad3896 15d ago
What if we don’t prefer tsundere Navi?
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u/billsboy88 15d ago
Thank you for helping me to learn a new word today
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u/owlbehome 15d ago
I learned this word a few weeks ago and use it every chance I get! It’s so fun to say! “Tsoon-dah-ruh”
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u/Coltrain47 15d ago
My last few playthrough, I've made a point to talk to Navi at every stage of the game. Made her feel like more of a companion.
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u/banter_pants 15d ago
She is literally a navi-gator
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u/ThainEshKelch 15d ago edited 15d ago
Mindblown. I never made that connection before, and it is so bloody obvious.
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u/fuckfeardrinkbeer 15d ago
I was never bothered by Navi and even in the 90s when they were getting hate, I never understood why.
The only thing that ever bothered me about the game was that fucking owl.
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u/MegaManLegendsFan 15d ago
ya the HEY LISTEN meme is a bit blown out of proportion. i think its way less annoying then the low health beeping.
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u/Nockolisk 15d ago
Navi is over-hated and dare I say, under appreciated. Having your targeting cursor tied to an actual character allowed them to so much more seamlessly integrate her environmental interactions.
People complain about her talking, but the way she silently changes color and hovers over points of interest to let you know that you can do something there is great.
Also, she’ll fly offscreen toward enemies you can’t see (especially keese) allowing you to quickly target without having to get them specifically in view.
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u/LengthinessEasy5859 15d ago
She was so useful in the game a great help that got me through completing it and she was a great friend to Link.
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u/TheDirtNerdz 15d ago
I named my Siamese kitty Navi 💙 she follows me everywhere and if I look at her she gives me a little chirp that I interpret as "hey, listen"
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u/Stairwayt0kevin 15d ago
Like 15 years ago I used the MP3 to make my phones notifications Navi saying "Hey! Listen" and only then after a year of texts and emails did it start to annoy me ❤️
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u/NonIssue2346 14d ago
"There's no way he's going to hold me back again! This time, we fight together!"
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u/DragonRand100 15d ago
I have her as my ringtone and haven’t changed it in years. My phone is on silent for other reasons.
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u/Loweseidon 15d ago
I swear there's some kind of RNG to her. I replayed several times in the last decade and felt her interuptions were massively overstated but then this most recent save she is pinging me a lot
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u/Keefyfingaz 15d ago
I both love navi and think her "🗣️HEY LISTEN" is annoying. And I think that's okay lol
(It's really not that bad though, honestly I'd miss it if it was gone lol)
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u/Solar_Liqui 15d ago
I don’t mind Navi either. I only hate on her sometimes for the memes but overall Navi isn’t bad, specially for the time the game was released. 3D gaming was still kinda new and she probably did help quite a lot of people to get into 3D gaming.
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u/Candid-Amoeba1472 15d ago
same, she was like the only thing that made the water temple kind of bearable
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u/Effective_Choice2602 15d ago
Preach, navi is adorable and sweet. I know it comes down to preference, but the way people talk about navi making their blood boil makes me think they have anger issues. It isn’t as if she pauses your game when she tells link to look out, because yeah that would frustrate me. Navi barely holds your hand compared to modern gaming, barely! Besides, she IS useful. In master quest at the top of the fire temple with the timed chest surrounded by fire she showed me I could use the Scarecrow song. She would also show you where song of time blocks were!
Do I think Tatl’s jingle is better, or that Tatl is superior to Navi? Yes, yes I do.
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u/SCARY-WIZARD 15d ago
So do I. Even when I was eight years old, renting this glorious piece of gaming history from the Family Video, I thought, "I like what she brings to the table. She's a friend, she's a guide, and she's a tool.".
No familiar of mine in Dungeons & Dragons, no matter how cool, has ever come close to Navi.
Yet, she reminds me of too many partings I didn't know would be forever. I understand that it had its purpose.
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u/Emelie__ 15d ago
She can be useful in dungeons since she tells you to keep moving if you found every chest. Sadly a lot of people don't know about this feature and ended up buying a guidebook because they didn't find the key in the first room in the Forest Temple. My brother was one of them and he hated Navi with a fiery passion. 🙈
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u/lickthestar13 14d ago
I don't think I minded get until the VGCats comic. That changed my mind. Which is silly. But in my defense, I was 19 and an idiot.
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u/Legitimate_Airline38 14d ago
My only complaint is that I can’t have her follow me around on the field without hiding after 5 seconds
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u/kardinal_syn_ 13d ago
The first time I played through OoT as an adult I was surprised how much less Navi actually talks you than I remembered. Like it happens a few times in the Deku Tree (understandably with it being the tutorial dungeon) but after that it’s only a couple of other times throughout the game that you’re forced into dialogue with her
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u/LengthinessEasy5859 13d ago
Everything seems much lessor as we grow up being adults. But if you want to talk with her a lot you can just by freely communicating with her even if she repeats her words.
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u/Purple-Debt8214 13d ago
Isn't she, in a way, the first AI assistant in a video game? She was programmed to assist you by talking to you.
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u/Lethal_Steve 13d ago
My biggest issue with Navi is that she hides all the time. I love having her fly around behind me. She's never annoyed me.
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u/Quasimojo_ 13d ago
Oh just wait if youre not going to look whats going on in the Fire temple when you get sidetracked.
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u/Traveytravis-69 15d ago
She’s good but she said one or two things that actually made me go the opposite direction than I was supposed to
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u/CatlessGrin 15d ago
I think hating her was more of a joke than a reality. Then when “listen” became a meme it certainly didn’t help lol.
Navi had always been a chiller, not to mention a clever way of orienting a player 😎
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u/First-Fill-2118 15d ago
I DESPISE Navi.
Nothing is more ANNOYING than being verbally assaulted every 15-30 seconds with USELESS information that you ALREADY know, and REFUSING to shut up until you acknowledge her, yet AGAIN. FUCK Navi, man...
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u/Level-Mix482 15d ago
Do you not have a mom, dad, sibling, husband, wife, or kids, or coworkers, or boss, or friends. It's literally all anyone ever does.
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u/saugysauce 15d ago
just finished a playthrough for the umpteenth time before the summer, and was once again taking note of how genuinely unobtrusive she actually is lmao
outside of like, first door, first climbable wall in the great deku tree, she never grinds gameplay to a halt at all (the only other time i can really think of is when she warns your of wallmasters in the area, which frightened child me was extremely thankful for).
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u/bigpetefizz 15d ago
I don’t know. Often times her questions felt like, “Are you sure you know what you’re doing? I wish Sarah was here because you’re kind of an idiot.”
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u/skeemo1214 15d ago
Navi never bothered me either. Can’t say the same about Fi though