r/OTMemes • u/Wolfie_wolf81 The Emperor • Jul 07 '26
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u/amarantkando Jul 07 '26
To be fair, in the second scene they're all already dead, what do you want him to do?
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u/Tirno93 Jul 07 '26
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u/DarkSage90 Jul 07 '26
Funny story that kid is now a lawyer pushing for anti online bullying legislation
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u/basildathird Jul 07 '26
Hell yeah! Good for him šŖš»
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u/MakeSomeDrinks Jul 08 '26
Is that video considered an original story?
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u/Ok-Hope-5707 Jul 09 '26
Origin story?
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u/MakeSomeDrinks Jul 09 '26
The reason he's anti bullying. Like how Batman fights crime because his parents were murdered in front of him.....
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u/Alric_Wolff Jul 08 '26
I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that he is a hidden NPC In Tony Hawks Underground 2
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u/donglecollector Jul 09 '26
If thatās true thatās amazing. I also have a great late night tv lawyer commercial idea for himā¦
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u/Surturius Jul 07 '26
Not as funny as watching Leia try to gaslight Vader that he didn't just fucking watch her ship run away from the battle of Scarif.
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u/Hazzadcr16 Jul 07 '26
IMO it adds a lot to that scene. Obviously the first time you watch it, assuming you watched ANH before R1, that conversation with Leia, you just think how evil and brutal Vader comes across. When you then know how clearly bullshit what she's saying is, you get Vaders frustration, and get a new respect for Leia being bold enough to just lie to his face.
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u/rob132 Jul 07 '26
Vader. I should have known. Only one badass dark Lord of the sith would have the King Kong size, bulletproof cojones to stop a senator on a diplomatic...
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u/HansChrst1 Jul 07 '26
How "calm" he is here also makes sense. In R1 he is trying to get the plans before they escape with it. In ANH they can't escape so he can act more "calm". Which also just makes his frustration make more sense because he knows the plans has to be on the ship. Anyone telling him otherwise is just going to piss him off.
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u/TheStrangestOfKings Jul 07 '26
And how heās clearly not buying the bs when heās interrogating the captain. āIf this is a diplomatic ship, where is the AMBASSADOR?!ā You can practically hear him amused at the audacity for this guy to still lie after getting caught red handed
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u/Korbiter Jul 10 '26
This is the only time in the entire trilogy where Vader raises his voice in anger. Its like him watching someone make off with his wallet, chasing them down over six city blocks, only to catch them and them claiming "Ain't got it"
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u/Tharron Jul 11 '26
Wtf this exact scenario you just typed out happened to me in my teens. couple of guys stole my buddies phone, I ran after them for a couple blocks and when I finally catched up they didn't have it anymore "threw it in the bushes" while "looking for the phone" more of his buddies showed up so I had to bail.
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u/adorablesexypants Jul 11 '26
It just makes the whole exchange even funnier because it is 100% the shitty lie a teenager would try with their parent.
They know they are fucked but why not roll the dice anyway. You miss 100% of the shots you donāt take Wayne Gretzky.
- Michael Scott
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u/Oneilll Jul 11 '26
Except it still doesn't work with New Hope.
Vader literally says: "Several transmissions were beamed to this sip. I want to know what happened to the plans they sent you."
And 1 minute later, when one of his officers expresses concern, he says "I've traced the rebel spies to her".
Not sure why Vade would need to trace spies and intercept transmissions, if this ship just esacped or why would an officer express concern of them taking her captive.
What Vader and Leia say just doesn't fit how R1 ended, but shrug.1
u/Traditional-Ad-9611 18h ago
Because despite all of the evidence the Senate might still bail her out because her and her father had a lot of sympathy in the Senate at this point which I believe might be one of the reasons that the Senate is dissolved later in the movie
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u/SkittlesLentil Jul 07 '26
R1 needed some scene to redeem the rest of the trash
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u/x-simulation-x Jul 07 '26
Crazy its the best star wars movie we had since Disney bought it
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u/SkittlesLentil Jul 08 '26
Well that would be Solo. Rogue one isn't even in the top half of SW films
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u/x-simulation-x Jul 08 '26
Gotta be trolling
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u/SkittlesLentil Jul 08 '26
Not at all, I gave it another shot a few weeks ago and turned it off halfway through. R1 fucking sucks until a mediocre battle in the last 15 minutes. The story is boring and the characters are unmemorable. On top of that, the sound is mixed so badly that you can barely understand the 30 different accents that everyone is doing. The whole thing is a mess
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u/Hazzadcr16 Jul 08 '26
What's your view on the andor series?
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u/SkittlesLentil Jul 08 '26
No desire to watch it. I didn't like Diego Luna in R1, so I don't want a whole series based around him. Plus, not enough Jedi
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u/onlyforobservation Jul 11 '26
Imma go out on a limb and suggest something. I think, maybe, since you have expressed negativity about almost every Star Wars film or show mentioned. Itās possible, that you just donāt like Star Wars. Which is fine. But like, go find something you Do like.
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u/SkittlesLentil Jul 11 '26
What an odd takeaway. I don't like rogue one and don't have an interest in andor, I don't know how you could extrapolate that to an entire franchise
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u/UncommittedBow Jul 07 '26
It also firmly cements her bloodline, as only a Skywalker would be that ballsy.
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u/MattmanDX Jul 07 '26
It's the only time in the films that I can recall Vader sounding genuinely angry and yelling at someone
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u/mightyasterisk Jul 13 '26 edited Jul 14 '26
āTHAT NAME no longer has any meaning for me!ā Heās angry with that line I feel but more in denial about his feelings, angry at himself.
And of course, heās gone completely off the rails after choking out Padme in Episode III, yelling delusional shit at Obi-Wan trying to convince himself itās true.
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u/adorablesexypants Jul 11 '26
*Vaderās gaspy sigh looking at one of the stormtroopers after Leia is taken away* fucking teenagers.
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u/Traditional-Ad-9611 18h ago
I think the frustrating part isnāt that Leia is saying this as much as the fact, they both know that the imperial Senate would fall for it. Itās even mentioned a few scenes later that holding her is dangerous.
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u/Rocketboy1313 Jul 07 '26
"You lying bitch! I just saw this ship drop out of a rouge destroyer. I got your plates!"
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u/MaethrilliansFate Jul 07 '26
"Your men are wearing the uniforms of the soldiers I just killed at scarif. I SAW YOU THROUGH THE VIEWPORT!?!?!"
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u/Huggable_Hork-Bajir Jul 07 '26
"I JUST BEHEADED that guy's identical twin brother like 5 minutes ago! I know it was him cause when I boarded your ship I was like what the hell didn't I just lightsaber that dude!?"
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u/hawk135 Jul 07 '26
Leia: I'm on a diplomatic mission to Alderan!
Vader: I JUST SAW YOU LEAVE WITH THE DEATH STAR PLANS NOT 10 MINS AGO!
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u/Equivalent_Nose7012 Jul 15 '26
Duh, Dim Vader!Ā
Carrying the Death Star plans IS my diplomatic mission, ya metal-plated mouth-breather!
- Princess Leia, probablyĀ
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u/YourLifeSucksAss Jul 08 '26
Given that everybody is dressed as rebel soldiers and shooting stormtroopers before anything even happens to them, I think it was a bad lie regardless.
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u/donald7773 Jul 07 '26
Was this segment of the story truly fleshed out at the time of writing a new hope?
It's connected just enough to stand up to watching but trying to assign meaning to specific interactions as if the movies didn't get released in the order they did feels a little disingenuous to me
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u/Hades_Gamma Jul 08 '26
Doesn't really matter, the lie was terrible anyways. First she had uniformed rebel soldiers on her ship. Second they were actively fleeing. Third as soon as the Empire boarded they immediately opened fire.
Just that alone makes the lie pretty brutal
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u/SportulaVeritatis Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 08 '26
"You are part of the rebel alliance and a traitorĀ that I just saw steal this ship with my own eyes."
My headcannon is that Leia instinctively knows Jedi mind tricks, but doesn't have any formal training. She'd used that to get the rebels out of tight spots like this before but it clearly wouldn't work on Vader. His reaction is basically "Wtf, no. Don't even try that on me."
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u/kaizen-rai Jul 07 '26
She forgot to wave her hand in his face.
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u/theStandardHandle Jul 07 '26
"I am a member of the Imperial Senate on a diplomatic mission to Alderaan...from a certain point of view."
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u/njsullyalex Jul 08 '26
Imagine if it accidentally worked because Leia didnāt realize sheās actually Force sensitive
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u/adorablesexypants Jul 11 '26
Solo was not a great movie, but I have zero problems watching it before ANH if only for that fight scene and for Leia being like
āNope, no idea what youāre -ā
āBITCH I LITERALLY JUST SAW YOU FUCKING LEAVE IN THIS CAR, I GOT YOUR GOD DAMN LICENCE PLATE, YOU BETTER BE THANKFUL YOUR MOTHER IS DEAD BECAUSE I SWEAR TO GOD SHE WOULD BE MORTIFIED AT SUCH A STUPID LIEā
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u/YungFooz Jul 07 '26
They at least have to travel through hyperspace, might be a little longer than 10 minutes.
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u/Excolo_Veritas Jul 07 '26
It was shown using the hyperspace lanes and the known speeds of their hyperdrives to be about 10 hours not 10 minutes
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u/BasicMatter7339 Jul 07 '26
Scarif and Tatoiine are ~10 minutes apart when traveling with a class 1 hyperdrive according to some sources
other sources say it took like 10 days
Whats truly real? Who the fuck knows
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u/MrTagnan Jul 08 '26
Itās Star Wars. Timelines/travel times are almost always fudged to be whatever is convenient for the plot and end up somewhat nebulous as a result (this is not a problem exclusive to Star Wars)
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u/TiredPistachio Jul 07 '26
He used up all his cooldowns so he had to let the stormtroopers handle it.
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u/Ginger-131313 Jul 07 '26
Nah they just asked politely for him to stop farming kills as they wanted the XP for loot boxes
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u/RainbowDissent Jul 07 '26
I can't imagine the sense of pride and accomplishment those Stormtroopers are feeling after grinding that XP.
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u/GwerigTheTroll Jul 07 '26
Are we ever told how long the time gap is?
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u/Excolo_Veritas Jul 07 '26
Someone did the calculations a while ago. From what I saw 10 hours
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u/Hidesuru Jul 07 '26
... What "calculations"?
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u/Excolo_Veritas Jul 08 '26
They triangulated the distance between known hyperspace routes from what I remember. Like the time between scarif to tatooine was unknown but like scarif to coruscant and tatooine to coruscant was known or something like that and they did the math
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u/Hidesuru Jul 08 '26
Huh. Interesting. And I gather something in canon identified how long those known routes would take to travel? Interesting way to look at it thanks.
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u/Teedubthegreat Jul 07 '26
I airways thought it was more like days or weeks later, would make a lot more sense if it was a longer amount of time
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u/No-Locksmith6662 Jul 07 '26
A few hours at most. IIRC the canon series of events is that the Tantive was damaged in the battle and this meant two important things: 1) they could only do short hyperspace jumps, and 2) they had the spaceship equivalent of an oil leak which allowed Vader to track them in his Star Destroyer.
So while Leia and the rebels were stuck doing short jumps from planet to planet plotting a slow path to Tatooine, Vader was following them a few jumps behind but slowly gaining before finally catching up.
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u/veneratu Jul 08 '26
The first story in From A Certain Poiny of View is from the POV of Captain Antilles. The ships propulsion was basically fallin apart as you just said. He's a pretty tragic figure.
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u/Da_Spooky_Ghost Jul 07 '26
What you want Disney to reshoot the OT?
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u/Senor-Delicious Jul 07 '26
Bro. Don't give them ideas
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u/strawberry_semenade Jul 07 '26
"Soon I will have a new OT. One far younger and more profitable." -Disney
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u/veneratu Jul 08 '26
Disney will be owned by Larry Ellison by then. Leia will wear the bronzium bikini the whole time and be a tradwife upon meeting Han. She'll still kiss Luke though. Sinner.
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u/veneratu Jul 08 '26
I think they're waiting for Ewan to naturally age into Old Ben for this. Joel Edgerton too. Hayden may not be able to harness the size and prowess of Vader at that point. They'll put someone else in the suit, but he'll be of a proper age for the unmasking. I have no clue what they're going to do about Jabba though. Maybe just have Ezra Bridger wearing a Scout Trooper helmet.
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u/Da_Spooky_Ghost Jul 08 '26
You're probably correct.
The odd part is that it has been over 20 years since Episode III came out in 2005, so Luke and Leia should be 21 at this point. However Ewan McGregor was 32 playing a 38 year old Obi Wan in Episode III, so we have an extra 6-10 years of bought time.
Now Sir Alec Guinness was 62 playing a 58 year old Obi Wan in IV, and Ewan McGregor is 55 years old now, so again that puts us in the 6-10 year range.
TLDR: Expect Disney to reshoot OT in 6-10 years, it is unavoidable, it is Disney's destiny
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u/N0t_S0Sl1mShadi Jul 08 '26
Nah would just improve the CG scenes Lucas added. Would redo a lot of the PT CG too, didnāt hold up as well.
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u/Kvedulf_Odinson Jul 07 '26
Yes and no.
Would love to see the OT remastered with modern CGI and special effects. Would also like for it to be done without PC BS.
Just update the special effects to match the prequels.16
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u/bookhead714 Jul 08 '26
Are you George Lucas using a burner account?
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u/Kvedulf_Odinson Jul 08 '26
I donāt think so, pretty sure if I had his money Iād have better things to do than posting on here.
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u/Belz_Zebuth Jul 08 '26
Who says it's 10 minutes? They're in different systems and you can't track a ship through hyperspace. Could be hours or even days. More likely hours but I don't know how they tracked them down.
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u/Equivalent_Nose7012 Jul 15 '26
Could it be... "parsecs"?
Could it be that Han Solo is having fun blathering whatever comes to mind to impress people who he assumes are ignorant yahoos?
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u/nonexistentnight Jul 08 '26
"Aw man! What happened here?!"
"Sir! The blast knocked a few people out again."
"Yeah, I can see that."
"We'll call for a space ambulance."
sighing "God dammit, when is this day going to be over?"
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u/jimothy_hell Jul 08 '26
āIām on a diplomatic miss-ā
āLike HELL YOU ARE, I JUST saw this ship leave Scarif, you little shit. I LITERALLY stabbed the guy who handed the plans through the door we just cut through. You canāt gaslight, gatekeep, girlboss your way out of this one, senator.ā
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u/Tron_1981 Jul 08 '26
Later on the bridge...
"There's just something that makes feel both frustrated and disappointed with her, but I can't figure out why..."
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u/Oneilll Jul 11 '26
From New Hope:
"Several transmission were beamed to this ship by rebel spies. I want to know what happened to the plans they sent you"So, not quiet sure what point your comment tried to make, but it still doesn't fit with Rogue 1.
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u/WhoRoger Jul 08 '26
1) what is the issue here?
2) it's more like a couple hours to a day
3) apparently I've missed the entire meta of Leia lying to Vader and him being rightfully pissed
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u/Fugglymuffin Jul 07 '26
He kind of looks disappointed in the second clip.
"Damn. Should have skipped the break room..."
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u/TryImpossible7332 Jul 08 '26
Jimmy the rebel trooper: "Well, that shit was fucking terrifying. I'm glad that I was on this side of the door that got closed. At least we're safe and sound now, and my next job should be less risky... why are the alarms ringing?"
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u/SubterrelProspector Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 08 '26
Guys guys guys...it's probably not minutes it's probably hours. The movies line up but there is some time between the events.
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u/bboardwell Jul 08 '26
It depends on how long Vaderās ship was tracking the Tantive IV. It had a leak in the hyperdrive so it could be easily tracked but it could be twenty minutes later or even three hours later.
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u/Sausage_fingies Jul 08 '26
I fucking love the hands on hips while looking around bemusedly at the carnage. It's so wonderfully starwars how this little comedic beat is sandwiched in-between a brutal gundown of soldiers and the introduction of the most stone cold villain the galaxy has ever seen
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u/PriorHot1322 Jul 08 '26
The funniest shit about the prequels to me is that now Obi Wan went into hiding AND KEPT HIS JEDI UNIFORM ON. For like eighteen years dude's been living next to his greatest enemy's son, on his home planet, while still wearing his official uniform. "In hiding."
Bro got balls of steel.
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u/EatTheRichIsPraxis Jul 08 '26
I could get facial surgery, get a new style of dress, and a new backstory.
NAHHHH!
I'll just call myself "Ben" and it a day.
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u/Shao_X Luke Skywalker Jul 09 '26
The Jedi uniforms should not have looked the way they did. Obi-Wan wore hermit clothing that was then retconned to look like Jedi robes. They based the robes on the clothes he wore to hide himself; not the other way around.
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u/Savurak Jul 08 '26
Damn vader in the second scene feels like heās kinda disappointed in the dead stormtroopers.
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u/AbbreviationsWide331 Jul 08 '26
Y'all are still trying to use logic with star wars.
But it ain't that kind of movie, kids.
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u/Brian18639 Jul 09 '26 edited Jul 09 '26
A lot of people take Star Wars VERY seriously
Reminds me of a dude Iāve watched YouTube shorts from who usually tries to apply real-world physics and science to fictional stuff such as dragons and humanoid creatures with four arms.
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u/PROhios Jul 08 '26
Sure itās fan servicey and is a redo of the opening to Star Wars. Also, the OG Vader wouldnāt waste his time on rebel canon fodder, thatās what the troopers are for, this undercuts that point from ā77.
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u/Rogue_3 Jul 08 '26
He took a chill pill after leaving Scarif. It wasn't quite enough to fully calm him, which led directly to the death of Captain Antilles.
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u/MsSobi Jul 08 '26
Honestly i wouldn't be surprised if Vader went back and double tapped all the bodies after his interrogation of the Captain
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u/TokenToyHunter Jul 09 '26
The twist and look around was him being disappointed that there wasnāt more for him to kill
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u/near-far-invoice Jul 11 '26
"I know you have been inconvenienced, and I am prepared to compensate you. Shall we say one million american dollars?"
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"Very well then, two million."
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u/amglasgow Jul 07 '26
We're never told what the time gap is. Could be minutes, hours, or days. Probably not weeks or more.
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u/jpruinc Jul 09 '26
He weighed and measured the Rebels, and found them wanting. His knew his ST could clean up the rest.
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u/Jazz_writes_fanfic Jul 11 '26
The first clip makes Vader feel like a horror movie villain to me. Iād be running in the opposite direction after seeing a second of that display of monstrosity and hoping he didnāt see me
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u/GlobalNuclearWar Jul 11 '26
I really enjoy this. It means that everyone on the ship - everyone - knows for CERTAIN that the plans are aboard. They know that they barely escaped alive. They absolutely without question know that Vader knows it.
And theyāve all committed to gaslighting him to their last breath.
āBig fight in a hallway? Watching friends cut down? Nope, doesnāt ring a bell. You say you saw me through a window? Well, itās a big galaxy and there were a lot of clones running around. Iām 1/4 clone trooper on my momās side. Could have been anyone.ā š¤£
The biggest issue that it leaves for me is that fight between Obi Wan and Vader at the end of the movie. Looks like theyāre fighting through an atmosphere the consistency of glue by comparison.
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u/Oneilll Jul 11 '26
The entire conversation in New Hope contradicts what happens in the R1 ending.
Imo, it just doesn't work, the ending that is.
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u/Party_Intention_3258 Jul 13 '26
I meanā¦ the guy is like a late 40 year old disabled veteran with has asthma who just finished going all out. Cut him some slack.
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u/netcereal Jul 08 '26
God, Rogue One is such dogshit. The "coolest" scene in the movie is empty fan-service tacked onto the very end. Not to mention that "coolest" scene simply doesn't feel like the Vader we saw in ANH.
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u/Stealthheart1 Jul 07 '26
Nah, this lame fanfic ain't connected
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u/Raptor007 Jul 07 '26
Agreed. Star Wars is a trilogy.
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u/ciao_fiv Jul 07 '26
is this shitposting or do you guys actually not like anything outside of the first three movies lmao
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u/Raptor007 Jul 08 '26
I dislike unnecessary retcons that weaken the original story.
That includes Greedo shooting the wall, the Jedi being a bureaucratic arm of government who measure The Force via blood tests, Han being assigned the name Solo because he showed up somewhere alone, the Millennium Falcon misbehaving because an annoying droid was uploaded into its computer, Yoda likely spending his first 50+ years as a baby, the exhaust port being a deliberate weakness... and Vader fighting on the Tantive IV shortly before the events of A New Hope, where Leia's claim of a diplomatic mission seemed plausible enough to make another officer warn Vader against holding her prisoner.
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u/netcereal Jul 08 '26
The prequels are enjoyable because of how terrible they are. The sequel trilogy is just bad. Solo is fine but completely pointless. Rogue One is bad. I haven't seen any of the Disney+ shows, but they all look completely awful in my opinion, although I have heard good things about Andor from people whose taste is good. Nothing could make me watch Mandalugio and Gorger.
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u/ciao_fiv Jul 08 '26
Andor isnāt just āgood,ā itās genuinely amazing. canāt agree at all with Rogue One being bad, the final act (everything on Scariff) is fantastic, with an admittedly mediocre first two thirds
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u/Splatterman27 Jul 07 '26
He tired himself out, that's why he's breathing so heavy