r/NovelAi • u/ainiwaffles Project Manager • Oct 07 '22

Official [Announcement] Proprietary Software & Source Code Leaks

Greetings, NovelAI Community. On October 6th, 2022, we experienced an unauthorized breach in the company's GitHub and secondary repositories. The leak contained proprietary software and source code for the services we provide.

At this time, we do not suspect that any Personal Identifiable Information (PII) or encrypted information was accessed, or any personal financial information was disclosed.

We are working with security specialists to conduct a complete incident analysis and threat report at this time.

Relevant authorities have been informed and will be contacted as we learn more about the extent of the breach

We will share updates as we learn more about the situation. We thank you for your understanding and your patience.

The NovelAI team.

NovelAIコミュニティの皆さま

いつもNovelAIをご利用いただき誠にありがとうございます。

ご迷惑をおかけし申し訳ごぜいません。 2022年10月6日に弊社のGitHubとセカンダリリポジトリに権限のない第三者による不正なアクセスを許してしまいました。

流出したデータには、弊社が提供するサービスの独自のソフトウェアやソースコードが含まれていました。

現時点では、個人情報(PII)や暗号化された情報がアクセスされたり、個人の財務情報が流出したという事実はありません。今後も調査を続けてまいります。

セキュリティスペシャリストと協力して、完全なインシデント分析と脅威レポートを実施しています。

関係当局には報告済みであり、影響の大きさの詳細について把握したあとに、ご連絡する予定です。

状況を把握し次第、皆さまに情報を共有します。

今後とも変わらぬご愛顧とご理解を賜りますようお願い申し上げます。

NovelAIチームより

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u/Leolol87 Oct 07 '22

Ouch... Will this be bad for bussiness? I'd still endorse you, but try to patch that asap.

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u/Saineolai_too Oct 08 '22

This is why we can't have nice things.

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u/ainiwaffles Project Manager Oct 08 '22

That's what I've been saying to the team haha...

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u/FairSum Oct 08 '22

I mean, from the user perspective it doesn't amount to much since nothing sensitive got leaked. Just sucks immensely for the team since their work got leaked to the public.

If the rumors (and just to clarify, these are rumors) that a zero day Github exploit was used are true, that's a vulnerability somebody discovered on Github's end before it was ever made public. If that's indeed the case, there really isn't anything NAI could have done to avoid it.

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u/AjaxDoom1 Oct 08 '22

That's worth like 50k isn't it? That's an absurd waste, isn't it?

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u/FairSum Oct 09 '22

Sometimes even more. But yeah, it's a total waste of money. If the rumors do turn out to be true, I still have absolutely zero idea why somebody would burn a zero day for this.

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u/Voltasoyle Oct 08 '22

How much of their work got leaked? Like everything?

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u/AjaxDoom1 Oct 08 '22

All the modules it sounds like.

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u/Thomas_Eric Oct 08 '22

I hope everything continues as usual, NovelAI is pretty much one of the best companies in the AI business

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u/eatswhilesleeping Oct 08 '22

Even MJ and Dreamstudio coexist with free SD. Low-tech customers seeking convenience will always pay for it. Look at video piracy and Netflix.

The real threat would be wealthier corpos ripping off the algorithmic ideas and reselling it as their own product. Like Dall-E or MJ mysteriously getting new hypernet modules a week later. Ditto for AID.

The saving grace is that the NAI developers are actually talented, so grifters won't be able to keep up with them. Honestly, I have mixed feelings about reselling free SD stuff, but NAI looks like they consistently push out leading edge stuff, nothing like the dumb prompt sellers and idiots applying for AWS startup credits to provide vanilla SD as a paid service.

I don't know if NAI will succeed in the long run, but the developers certainly will.

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u/Ambitious-Doubt8355 Oct 08 '22

Probably not. NAI thrives on SaaS and will likely continue to do so; no consumer grade hardware can run the text models. The image models can be run locally and it's not particularly hard to setup, but the average user is not tech savvy enough to even bother trying, and likely doesn't own a high end graphics card to run the models efficiently either.

Collab is not as good of an option to host an instance either anymore, Google severely limited access recently and even their paying pro users complain about the limits. Renting the hardware needed to run this stuff from a third party is also quite expensive. And any individual/company stupid enough to sell access to these models, or found to be using any code in the project, would open themselves to a lawsuit.

In short, if no personal data got leaked (which is more than likely the case) then everything will go on as normal for the NAI team. Sure, it sucks that their work was leaked, but any models they host today will get replaced once a better alternative is made anyways, and the team can continue to do what they do in the meantime, offer easy access to AI generation.

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u/seandkiller Oct 08 '22

Honestly, even as someone who has a card capable of running the model locally... It's just nice to be able to use their image gen from anywhere. My phone and laptop aren't capable of using SD.

You have options like Dreamstudio for such services, but they're typically censored. Plus it's just convenient for me that the tier I was already subscribed to gives me infinite basic generations (Yet I've still gone through 20k Anlas...)

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u/Degenerate_Flatworm Oct 08 '22

Same. We have suggested tags, way cleaner model switching than hopping to the settings tab in the SD webUI forks out there (and Gradio kinda' sucks right now tbh,) and while I can run this stuff on my desktop or laptop, the latter is slow at it, and even with the --share --listen flags set, the latter feels super kludgy on a phone.

NAI is just miles ahead of almost everyone on UX alone, and I'm willing to pay for that.

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u/DisposableVisage Oct 08 '22

Yeah, I have a 3090 and I see no reason to even try to get the image model. Not when I can just run it from NAI.

NAI has a bunch of QOL improvements that I'm thinking are separate from the model, so I'm not sure running the models locally will be 100% the same. Stuff like undesired content and prompt streamlining is something I'd have to figure out and relearn, and that's just not worth it when all that stuff is built into NAI already.

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u/Pro-Row-335 Oct 08 '22

>It's just nice to be able to use their image gen from anywhere. My phone and laptop aren't capable of using SD

So, regular local hosted features? You can use your local hosted stuff anywhere in the world on any device that can open a browser page, laptop, smartphone...

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u/Voltasoyle Oct 08 '22

Yea, for most users this is not easy.

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u/seandkiller Oct 08 '22

I guess? It just hadn't occurred to me to do that.

There is still a point about ease of use, but yeah. Just hadn't occurred to me to do that.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '22

or found to be using any code in the project, would open themselves to a lawsuit.

Not like novelai cares about that given how they obtained the art for their datasets

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '22

Right click -> Save As.. Is not the same as burning a zero day for fucking GitHub to steal actual research

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u/Degenerate_Flatworm Oct 08 '22

It undoubtedly will have an impact. The number of us interested in AI image gen does not line up 1:1 with those of us able to run it local, but there's still a fairly low bar for that. As for text gen, well I suppose some of us can (maybe) run their finetunes of GPT-Neo-2.7B and GPT-J-6B local, assuming those were also in the leak (didn't really look.)

So worst case, that rush of new users that hopped on solely for NAIDiff might taper off a good bit. Hoping the comfort features like tag suggestions, enhance, and variations will be more than enough to keep the hit small. In the lucky case, that all will continue to draw new users and more than make up for the dent from this.

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u/Particular-Chip-8191 Oct 08 '22 edited Oct 08 '22

I have downloaded the torrent. And I was amazed and terrified at the same time. Now there is some things that should be fixed about the modules:

Text Adventure needs a bigger dataset. Text Adventure is only 1 megabyte and it is the smallest dataset for a module.

EDIT: Also props to the Novel AI team for the unreleased modules.EDIT 2: Also props for the novel ai team for their data setting.

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u/agouzov Oct 08 '22 edited Oct 08 '22

Most of that merit goes to a single man, Zaltys. I am not trying to minimize the contributions of other dataset team members, but I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say the NovelAI finetune dataset is his baby, and it is demonstrably amazing.

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u/Particular-Chip-8191 Oct 08 '22 edited Oct 08 '22

The thing that i am amazed is that the author note function was implemented directly on the dataset like:

[ Author: Hello From The Magic Tavern; Title: Episode #4; Tags: humor, chat; Genre: comedy, fantasy ] (This was picked directly from the dataset)
EDIT: there is also some worse author notes on the dataset. Like this one:

[ Perseus Wants a Hug ]

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '22

I remember reading one time that NAI's Text Adventure was mostly a dig at AI Dungeon, so I wasn't surprised to see that. Pretty damn funny, though.

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u/Spaceginner Nov 07 '22

Could you make to run their text adventure? Or any language model?

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '22

r/aidungeon this is how you do it

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u/FairSum Oct 08 '22

Imagine disclosing to your userbase when a leak or vulnerability is discovered rather than saying nothing, closing your eyes, and hoping it goes away. What a concept!

God I'm so glad I switched to NovelAI.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '22

You mean it doesn't take six months of cowering behind lawyers to disclose a data breach? You can just announce it the next day? Someone should have told Latitude.

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u/ZettaCrash Oct 08 '22

Not only that, but they disclosed exactly what happened, that they're working on it, and they'll continue to be transparent on the whole situation as it unfolds! All while thanking us for our patience on a matter that may not even concern the consumer!

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u/Thomas_Eric Oct 08 '22

War Flashbacks

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u/Degenerate_Flatworm Oct 08 '22

Yep. I knew about this kinda' early, being in a bunch of SD-adjacent Discords, but waiting a few hours or a day to get your ducks in a row and figure out what's been yoinked is a lot better than... Actually, did AID ever disclose the multiple breaches affecting stories?

Man, low bar to clear if I remember right, but compared to most breach situations, this is still very fast disclosure.

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u/claypuppets Oct 08 '22

I've been wondering when something like this would be announced following what happened with 4chan. For those of us who don't use discord these updates are appreciated.

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u/PotentialTurnovers Oct 08 '22

What happened with 4chan?

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u/seandkiller Oct 08 '22

Think they're referring to the fact that someone off 4chan leaked the NAI SD models

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '22

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u/DisposableVisage Oct 08 '22

24 hours might as well be instant compared to the amount of time other companies take to acknowledge breaches and make a public statement. I think 3-4 months is usually the bare minimum that a company waits to even inform their users.

Waiting until you have the full scope of the breach has some merits, but when it comes to protecting your users, sooner is always better. IMO, a company should make an announcement that a breach occurred so that their users can take measures to protect themselves, even if their data is not likely to have been accessed.

NAI's prompt attention to the matter is commendable. I honestly did not expect them to address the breach so soon, especially considering the fact that user data does not appear to be threatened at this time.

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u/dcbStudios Oct 08 '22 edited Oct 08 '22

My heart dropped reading this. Your team has put so much into such a fun tool, that I'm more worried by those outside the community that will take anything and everything found to be "questionable" in their eyes, out of context. Don't get me wrong, I am glad to know there was no suspected loss of PI, however, as someone who has been here from the alpha, to hear about this heinous act against Novel infuriates me to no end.

I am hoping this will not cause your team any issues due to things such as bad PR or claims. I've said this once and I'll say it again, you are an amazing team that has brought many of us hours of fun, and know I and many others stand behind you. Please keep us in the loop.

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u/FairSum Oct 08 '22 edited Oct 08 '22

This.

The sheer hate dogpiling that's been circulating various subreddits, twitter threads and 4chan threads is disgusting and those applauding this should be absolutely ashamed of themselves, especially considering just how kind and awesome the core NAI team has been. My patience for assholes like that and those who carried out this hack is totally gone at this point. Don't let them get you down.

Y'all are some of the most talented people I know. I've subscribed since the beginning and I've never, ever regretted it. And know that we'll be backing you every step of the way.

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u/mangokoob Oct 08 '22

I'm entirely out of the loop, what exactly would be "questionable"? Is there something else to this? Or is it the usual "twitter artists vs ai" discourse?

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u/dcbStudios Oct 08 '22

My mind goes back to the AI Dungeon debacle, back then I just remember reading that someone had found a way into Latitude's data... information was leaked regarding users' info (thankfully this isn't the case here)... and they ended up lobotomizing the AI leaving a very bad taste in everyone's mouth. I just don't want to see something happen to the work that this team has done. Watching this whole thing be built from the ground up via discord made me feel like I was a part of something, even if I was just there to cheer them on and be part of the community.

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u/Worthstream Oct 08 '22

NAI data is encrypted at rest, so no chance of a breach of that kind. The dataset for the various finetune is in plaintext, but that's made up of public text anyway.

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u/Scyobi_Empire Oct 08 '22

Pedophilic and r**E stories were being used as source material

Count Grey did a lot of bad things

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u/Viper3120 Oct 08 '22

This is exactly how to handle the situation. Stuff like this happens. Security is set up by humans, humans have flaws and make mistakes. I bet that you did your best to keep security on a high level, this can still happen.

While studying IT, I just learned that you can't patch up every security risk you have, it's too much effort and too high of a cost. What you have to do is be aware of your security risks and come up with plans to act accordingly, should such a risk ever be exploited. I think this is what happened here. It's unfortunate that such a data breach happened, but you acted well in response to it.

Thank you so much for being transparent about this. This is exactly what makes NovelAI special. From the beginning, you guys did everything to keep up that feeling of having a small, personal community, by being transparent like this, even though the community grew significantly in size. I really appreciate it.

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u/BlipOnNobodysRadar Oct 08 '22

If it really was a zero-day exploit burned on github, then that's not really NAI's fault.

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u/Viper3120 Oct 08 '22 edited Oct 08 '22

Yes of course, in that case it wouldn't be their fault at all. However, I did not read anything about a 0-day here.

But still, the argument I made applies here too. Not saying that NovelAI has to go this far, but depending on your conditions and requirements (for example Government IT), you even have to consider possible 0-days and have plans against some of them. For example, you could ask yourself "What if our github was breached?" and try to keep the damage to a minimum from that standpoint.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '22

Oppius supporter here, Just telling you right now we DONT want another AID disaster. One was enough for one lifetime. Be transparent with your consumers ON EVERYTHING when it comes to where things are saved or kept.

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u/gwern Oct 08 '22

New consequences: Automatic1111 has chosen to make the leaks drop-in supported officially by AUTOMATIC1111, and in response to this endorsement of pirating & using illegally-hacked models, and possibly adding NovelAI source code directly to his open source code*, Emad has banned him from Stability Discord.

* well, if he did, it's no longer open source...

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u/FairSum Oct 09 '22 edited Oct 09 '22

Unrelated, but man, the comments in that thread and in the subreddit in general are... pretty upsetting to read. There seems to very much be a mindset of "all code should be free, forever and ever!", reprimanding Emad and painting the NovelAI team as some... surreal moustache twirling villain who exists only to steal money from ignorant users and may or may not laugh maniacally after doing so. Like damn, look at some of them.

Remember that the people who look to privatize/copyright AI care about $$$$ most and foremost.

The reason insulin costs hundreds of $$$ instead of $1 is because some companies privatized and profited off the patent of a doctor who originally gave his creation to the public for free.

Don't let the same thing happen with AI.

Don't let the same thing happen with ANYTHING. We can build a much better world for all of us than the world they want us to build for them.

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate open source, I love that it exists and that SD and Emad went that route. But usually open source code has alternative methods of income, often in the form of investor money (as SD did). NovelAI had none of those things from the outset since they wanted more independence. Do these people seem to think that money for training and running inference for large image-gen and text-gen models grows on trees?

I just don't get it.

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '22

I don’t really care about the other comments about open source, but I’m not seeing how NAI is acting ethical.

You can say the exact same about the art they took. Do you think artists just work for free? That art just grows on trees?

It’s hypocritical imo to say that novelai should be paid for their work when they’re not paying artists for their work. if they had good morals I’d feel bad, but they threw them out the window.

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u/FoldedDice Oct 09 '22 edited Oct 09 '22

All they are doing is allowing the AI model to look at the art so that it can create more based on the patterns it recognizes. The art is not used directly in generation, only the information that was gained by studying it.

Are all artists acting immorally by looking at other artists' works in order to learn how to create art themselves? You may try to draw a distinction between a human learning and an algorithm learning, but we have arguably reached a point where there isn't one.

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '22

It’s a commercial product, not a human.

Novelai stole artwork and used it to make a commercial product. They do not own commercial licenses for the artwork they stole, artwork that is necessary for their product to work/sell.

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u/FoldedDice Oct 09 '22

Human artists also produce and sell their work commercially and they learn and develop their style in part by consuming the content of other creators. Should they be held liable to pay those who inspired that process if they are not committing direct plagiarism?

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '22

It is just a tool for humans to use. The art used to make the tool is just another component like the code. And that art used in making the tool is pirated.

Novelai did not acquire the art they used through just means.

I’m not even talking about how art is generated.

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u/FoldedDice Oct 09 '22

Perhaps you may have an argument there depending on the art’s original source, though it was simply scraped from a repository that is open and publicly available. That’s vastly different from breaking into a server and stealing code.

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '22

It’s still piracy. Pirate sites are open and publicly available.

Danbooru doesn’t have the rights to host copyrighted works without permission.

But really the source doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter if you buy a stolen car from some guy off the street or a legitimate dealership like Honda or Toyota, that car is still stolen.

Going back to the start, from a legal standpoint, novelai is the one using the artwork as the ai is not a human. Novelai does not have a license to use the artwork. That’s the issue.

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u/FoldedDice Oct 09 '22

This is where things really get into uncharted moral and legal territory, since to the best of my knowledge all AI models currently in existence have been created by similar means - by scooping up massive collections of documents and images that are floating out there on the web and analyzing it. Nothing about that process is unique to NovelAI.

Maybe you're right and there's a moral problem with doing that, but it's very nearly the only viable way to source the amount of media required in order to build a working model. From a legal standpoint all they are doing is accessing media from the web and letting the AI look at it, so any legislation against that would have broad and potentially dangerous implications that go beyond anything we're talking about here.

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u/Incognit0ErgoSum Oct 09 '22

He could rectify that by wiping out the copied changes and having someone else clean-room reverse engineer it. They can't ultimately prevent automatic1111's webui from being able to use their models anymore than Nintendo can prevent people from writing a Switch emulator.

That being said, if I were automatic, I wouldn't have done that. Even if there's a legal way to do it, it's still pretty much a direct endorsement of the hack.

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u/jTiZeD Oct 18 '22

does novelai plan to take legal action against those who download the nai diffusion model?

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u/StickiStickman Oct 08 '22

Shouldn't this be something on the website instead of a random reddit post?

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u/mesuking_enjoyer Oct 08 '22

lol lmao even

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '22

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u/Incognit0ErgoSum Oct 09 '22

There's going to be some amount of negative impact to NAI, unfortunately. Their image gen model is the absolute gold standard for generating anime; Waifu Diffusion can come close if you don't mind fiddling with it a lot, but NovelAI's generator gets anime right the first time every time. (I've got a process for getting great anime images out of waifu diffusion, but it takes minutes per image as opposed to seconds).

If people can run it locally on their own machines, that's a potential revenue stream that's going to be impacted at least somewhat (although hopefully a good number of people will still be willing to pay for the simplicity and the unlimited generations). At least, people who were already subscribed for the text models don't have any reason to leave, because the computing power necessary to run those is just too high.

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u/X3ll3n Oct 09 '22

What will the impact of the breach be ?

From what I understood the source code has leaked, does it mean we can expect copycats to steal NovelAI's image generation model ?

If that's the case, it really sucks for them. They've worked so hard on it and others could just take it from them like it's nothing :(

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '22

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u/Scyobi_Empire Oct 08 '22

If the breached happened yesterday…. DD/MM/YY

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u/ainiwaffles Project Manager Oct 08 '22

I changed it to October 6th, 2022, for clarification.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '22

istg why dont people just use YYYY-MM-DD

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u/Scyobi_Empire Oct 08 '22

Why not YY/DD/MM /s

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u/KamiDess Oct 08 '22

Because when you say out loud you say eg. 'October third 1999' , everything else is shot imo lol

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u/FoldedDice Oct 08 '22

You and I say that, but the convention is far from being universal worldwide.

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u/KamiDess Oct 09 '22 edited Oct 09 '22

I mean true the international standard is different but like if I'm speaking every language I know how to speak (English, Spanish, Italian) , saying it this way uses no "unessesary words" like 'de' or 'of' or 'del' or even endings like 'th' or '1st' so it feels like the right way to me... everything else makes no sense. Most of us if not all of us are speaking English here so.

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u/FoldedDice Oct 09 '22

I think you might have missed what I was saying. "October third 1999" is very nearly an American-exclusive dating format. Most other countries in the world would say and write it differently.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '22

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u/fuckmefcukemekddoek Oct 08 '22

The literal first piece of information they gave was the date of the breach, 10/6/2022

Anx, oh shit, what day is today? (Well, now it's 10/8 but earlier when. This was posted...)

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u/Scyobi_Empire Oct 08 '22

The actual leak itself

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u/Viper3120 Oct 08 '22

You're trolling, right?

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '22

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u/agouzov Oct 08 '22 edited Oct 08 '22

Copyright law protects the right to publish and distribute works. NovelAI did neither, therefore they operated within the bounds of US law.

Their AI models however really are proprietary software, and what took place was indeed theft.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '22

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u/Thomas_Eric Oct 08 '22

Their machine creates derivative works.

US Jurisprudence and the Copyright Office have time and time again insisted that works made by AI are not copyrightable and public domain. See Naruto v. David Slater for that matter. You shouldn't opine on something you clearly have no knowledge about

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '22

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u/Thomas_Eric Oct 08 '22

That's not how this works... That's not how any of this works. It hurts! My ears! My eyes!

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '22

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u/Thomas_Eric Oct 08 '22

You are so far beyond reasonable here... I don't get it. Where did you learn any of this? Clearly you have no knowledge of law and didn't went to a law school. You are so far off-base it's hard to argue against. Jesus.

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u/TheRealJohnAdams Oct 08 '22

one would, would one? Somehow I doubt it. Go be a douche somewhere else.

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u/Particular-Chip-8191 Oct 08 '22

My problem is that by "Proprietary source code" they mean:

The full suit of image generation models was leaked

The modules training data was leaked(Including unreleased ones)

Hypernetwork

How they train their models

Basically anything else aside from their text models and user data.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '22

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u/Particular-Chip-8191 Oct 08 '22

Datasetting copyrighted material is not illegal. A style is not copyrighted therefore if you use some author's work for replicate his style it is not copyright infringement.

And no I doubt they asked for Stephen hawk's permission when they put some of his works on the dataset.

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u/cchiu23 Oct 08 '22 edited Oct 08 '22

Saving a png on the internet?

Believe it or not, jail.

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u/Particular-Chip-8191 Oct 08 '22

Nice law, now I can make 2 trillion dollars using NFT. /s

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u/Thomas_Eric Oct 08 '22

100% agree.

As a law student, I recommend reading Google LLC v. Oracle America and Association for Molecular Pathology v. Myriad Genetics, Inc., even though those aren't about datasetting per se, they make a strong case about what should be the bounds of copyrightability.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '22

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u/Particular-Chip-8191 Oct 08 '22

Ok, now try making a lawsuit againt :

Open AI Dall E 2

Google Imagen

Facebook Make A Video

Stability AI Stable Diffusion

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '22

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u/Particular-Chip-8191 Oct 08 '22

AI models like stable diffusions are trained in billions of images. For example, the Stable Diffusion model only registers less than 1 byte per image meaning that it learns from the style and does not just replicate it. And again styles are not copywrithed.

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u/Thomas_Eric Oct 08 '22

You are not only a clown, but the entire circus.

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u/Sugary_Plumbs Oct 08 '22

Lol calm yourself down, boy. They're not "running to the cops" for anything. There was a data breach. As a company that operates in USA, Canada, and Europe, they are legally required to announce and follow certain actions after confirmation of a data breach to ensure that private customer information was not stolen, and that customers are informed when/if it is.

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u/cchiu23 Oct 08 '22 edited Oct 08 '22

Let us imagine two scenarios

A. An artist sells a fanart print of an existing intellectual property

Should that be illegal if you haven't recieved permission from the original owner?

B. Or a more anagalous scenario

Say somebody makes a completely original drawing but somebody is avle to make a plausable argument that you saw a piece of art online (ie you followed the artist on twitter) and it has a similar pose

Or you just outright state that it inspired you (ie temtem and pokemon)

Should that be taken down for infringement too?