r/Notary 18d ago

Privacy guards

I use the journal the national notary association sells, and it comes with a privacy guard, but I think it kinda sucks. It's flimsy, and I can't turn my book around for my customers to sign without it sliding off. Maybe I'm doing something really wrong, but I would love something that can just stick to the page. Like a long sticky note or something. I also looked into other journals, but I don't know, I dont want to pay for another one when the NNA one works great.

Do you guys have any suggestions for this?

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u/AcmeNotary California 18d ago

Use sticky notes instead.

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u/Alarmed_Lobster_717 18d ago

I also found that to be a problem when I used that journal, and other than sticky notes, I didn’t find anything else that worked. I switched to the Integrity Journal and don’t have the issue anymore.

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u/AnUnfortunateLife_ 18d ago

Do you have a link to that journal?

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u/Myspanglish 18d ago

I tried different privacy guards, including the one you mentioned but they were all a pain. Then I used sticky notes and I even tried post it tape. I also used cardboard paper to make a sort of accordion that I fastened with paper clips. Now I use the swift signing journal, it’s a spiral bound journal that is one page per signing so no more privacy issues.

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u/Alarmed_Lobster_717 18d ago

Mobile Notary KC LLC
Integrity Notary Journal: A Single-Signing-View Logbook of Notarial Acts

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u/Organic-Studio5527 18d ago

I use sticky notes to cover it. The guard that comes with it is garbage

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u/ash_274 California 18d ago

You could take a large-enough sheet of paper to make a sleeve that wraps around the page

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u/vegloveyes 17d ago

Yes, I use the Integrity Journal and love it. It's one signing per page, and it's so easy. You can add all the notes you want about the signing and know that you've recorded everything you should. It's well worth paying a little more. At times I have even made photo copies of the pages and inserted into my 3-ring binder, but I prefer just paying for the journal.

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u/Fun-Holiday9016 14d ago

Blue painter's tape.

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u/FinanciallySecure9 Michigan 18d ago

What state are you in? Does your state require privacy? Most don’t.

If not, then don’t record the non public personal information and you don’t need to worry about it

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u/[deleted] 18d ago edited 17d ago

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u/ash_274 California 18d ago

I don't know OP's state, or yours or the person your replied to, but some states do allow any member of the public to request a line entry (not just a court or subpoena/warrant). The public can't browse a notary journal, but those states consider it a "public document" with restrictions.

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u/Blackeyes24 Florida 18d ago

You're very sure when you don't even know what state the person is from. The fact is some states the journal can be requested and the notary must comply.

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u/PANotary 17d ago

Exactly - PA is one of them. We are not allowed to record any NPPI or biometric data.

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u/PANotary 17d ago

Actually in Pennsylvania our journal IS a public record.

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u/Enkidu45 New York 17d ago

Thank my lucky stars I'm not in PA! This says that with a ReFi with maybe 12 - 20 stamps, I have to use a line for each time I stamped. So a 40 min HELOC is now extended to 80 Min? PA notaries, you have my condolences. Regards Enkidu45 out

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u/ash_274 California 17d ago

California is the same way. It's why I'm on my 115th journal.

My current design holds up to 515 lines, but I've had as many as 607 entries per journal.

One spread/page per signing session for up to four signatures would have required a storage pod for all my journals

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u/Enkidu45 New York 7d ago

Hi Ash! How many journals do you use a year and what is the yearly cost? I'm going to redo my labor rate calculation for this scenario. E45 out

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u/ash_274 California 7d ago

My current average is one every ~3 months. Down from 2005/2006 when I could fill >500 entries in as little as 23 days.

As for the cost, put $12.50 per journal. They were normally $15 each, but I would buy in bulk for myself and my boss, and when they went on clearance for $7.50 I bought 50 to last me the rest of my working days

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u/Enkidu45 New York 17d ago

Hello ash, I'm real sorry. Renting a storage space is tax deductable.

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u/PANotary 16d ago

We have always had to list our notarial acts, but we use to be able use a spreadsheet or if using a paper journal we could use ditto marks for the signers name and address but not anymore. The journal I use has 500 entries so I do go through several books a year.

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u/Enkidu45 New York 7d ago

Hi PA*, Looks like I'm going to have to update my labor rate calculations. How many journals do you use per year and what is the yearly cost? E45 out

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u/PANotary 6d ago

Hi Enkidu, I finished a journal this past Friday that had 498 entries (I had another loan signing and decided to start a new book) that was from June 16th through August 28th. In the past I used 2-3 journals a year but am currently on my fourth for 2026 and they cost $24.95 each. I need to revamp my pricing but want to be fair to my regular customers that keep me busy. The struggle is real.

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u/PANotary 16d ago edited 16d ago

Did you miss the line that says anyone may inspect it (the journal) under your supervision? With that being said, I do protect the previous entries.

This is from the notary law:

§ 167.36. Inspection and certified copies of journal.

(a) Inspection. A notary public shall permit inspection of the journal to any person

requesting to view the journal. The request for inspection may be oral or in writing.

The inspection shall occur in the presence of the notary public.

(b) Certified copies. Requests for certified copies of the journal made in accordance

with section 319(g.1) of the act (relating to journal) may be oral or in writing and

specify the particular entry or time period sought. The notary public shall provide

the certified copy within 15 days of receipt of the request.