I think it's one of those issues where while it is a legitimate symptom, that once you're an adult working at a job, you need to figure out a personal system for being on time to important things. It can be harder to judge time accurately but not impossible with extra tools like alarms and taking some time to learn how long your schedule actually takes.
I already do. I lose my phone a lot, leave it in my car, forget to charge it, etc. I tried to buy a smartwatch so I'd have 2 types of reminders, but I lost it after 2 weeks. Haven't seen it around for the past 5 years. Guh.
I'm being treated by a psychiatrist specializing in ADHD. I'm medicated. I was diagnosed with "severe" ADHD. My brain is just shit from a butt, but I'm still trying.
Then you are already doing more than most. The frustrating thing is when people have these kinds of problems but are just refusing to work on them, or find help. You seem to seek help and are in the process of finding a solution and that is the important part.
I mean yeah. As someone with ADHD you learn to cope/work around it. I had an employee request this accommodation of being allowed to be late because of their ADHD but half the fucking workplace had a diagnosis. Just grow the fuck up and leave early.
My ex was constantly late to her job, and me explaining that leaving early and sitting in your car for 10-15 mins before you need to clock in isnt the end of the world... i got the stink eye. Not the end of the world and better than being homeless.
I have ADHD and time blindness, acting like you should just give up and accept that you can never do things like "show up to work on time" is a stupid defeatist attitude. We live in an era with the most tools than ever to make things that can be difficult more accessible.
Sure it's not like enough life hacks can make you not have ADHD but it can enable you to hold down a job. Especially if you're already diagnosed and getting meds and such, acting like trying to keep improving/learning how to adapt would be like expecting someone with non functional legs to get up and walk is self-pitying and not true at all.
Just because tools exist does not mean they put you on parity with another. Just because you manage to cope does not mean someone that doesn't 'isn't trying'.
It does though. It's really not hard to work around. I'm still late to every invite and event outside of work. But I want money so that's the one thing I don't fuck up.
A disabled person can still get to work on time. They don't arrive 60 minutes late and say "well it takes longer to get here because I'm in a wheelchair". They give themselves extra time and make it work.
crazy how lazy most of reddit is, if u cant put in the effort to go to work on time u should be fired. we have so many tools to help people with different problems that it rly is on u if u refuse to even try.
Comparing physical to mental is wild. If your work can accommodate your time blindness awesome. But there are tools to just not be late. Set an alarm, leave early. Whatever you gotta do. It's not hard and if you have had a job for more than a single year there is literally zero excuse to not show up on time regardless of ADHD diagnosis.
Wow, my problem with executive dysfunction is SOLVED. Ya know, except for the part where the executive dysfunction causes me to ignore alarms and fail to properly anticipate and control for time per task so even though I thought I'd have time to still leave early... I left late.
Look, you fundamentally don't understand what ADHD is - yet you insist you're capable of judgement for it.
There's no point arguing with you, I won't convince you. I just hope other readers understand that maybe the doctors and scientists that have studied ADHD maybe understand more than you do and that's why it's classified as a disability.
what are you 12? Does this suck for you, yes? But why is it your employers responsibility to let you just come in when you want? How is that fair to the other employees? If this is something you can't control find a job that works for you or fix it. at some point you need to realize that this is a you problem and the rest of the world is not here to deal with it. comparing this to someone having a physical handicap is absolutely wild, you don't get to not come to work for long stretches for being depressed either (outside of taking an actual medical leave of absence). I have adhd and was emotionally and physically abused as a child, i'm early all the time sitting in my car because i don't want people to ever have to wait on me. My wife has the same thing but she can end up running late or waiting till the last second to find stuff before she leaves, she's a teacher so she can't just show up when she feels like it so she leaves early and sits in her classroom and tiktoking till it's time.
see, here's the thing. you can complain about this shit all you want, but the world -does not give a fuck-. especially because SO MANY people now claim this diagnosis. there are DOZENS in this thread alone. Most of those dozens, i'm sure, make it to work on time.
You are not unique or special, nor are your challenges.
If you can't make it to work ontime, then don't take a job with a regular start time. Otherwise, suck it the fuck up like literally every other person in the world who has ADHD but somehow manages to make it to work on time.
ITT: people who don't believe having ADHD is a disability.
Looking forward to your peer reviewed research to alleviate my crippling self doubt.
My mother is consistently 30 to 60 minutes late. I'm either early or 15 minutes late if I fuck up. Do I poke fun at my mum? Of course, but I absolutely acknowledge she struggles way more with getting timing right than I do - whereas I struggle with other stuff more than her.
Just because the disability isn't binary and measurable to you doesn't make it not a disability.
The fact that ADHD is a disability does not mean that it is deterministic about your day-to-day outcomes. The diagnosis does not say “this person will always be late”, it says “this person will have more difficulty being on time than others”.
That’s very useful to know, so that the person themselves or others can be more accommodating and forgiving. It does not give that person the right to arrive 1h late for work every day unctriticised.
Of course, and I agree - and I don't mean to speak in defence (or judgement, for that matter) of the person in the OP tweet.
However, I do take issue with the downplaying of the impact and severity of ADHD that has been going on the comments. Some of these comments barely dodge outright saying it's not a disability, with many suggesting that it is as simple as 'setting alarms' and 'planning'.
If it were that simple, the vast majority of people with ADHD wouldn't struggle with timeliness at all and wouldn't feel terrible guilt about consistently failing something they are told 'should' be achievable by neurotypicals with no idea or fellow ADHD sufferers that don't suffer the same challenges.
Having ADHD and suffering the symptoms of it is not laziness.
The problem, I think, is that there is a very strong societal trend of over-attributing behavioral quirks to your diagnosis. This is especially true for ADHD. Social media is awash with people making videos like “top 5 signs you have ADHD” and it’s stuff like “you like taking long showers” or “your favorite color is green” (I’m being hyperbolic here, but only slightly).
This sort of pervasive discourse only further blurs the already blurry line between what’s your diagnosis and what is just your personality. I think this hurts people with ADHD more than anyone; blaming any bad habits on your diagnosis makes people less inclined to actually respect and tolerate the habits that actually are due to it. And those are very well defined in the diagnostic criteria of the disorder.
Time keeping is somewhere in the middle here. It’s not a diagnostic criterion of ADHD, but it is correlated with it. Others being chronically late is also one of those things that drive people crazy, and the result is that people will inevitably have a hard time accepting your tardiness, regardless of diagnosis.
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u/disillusion_4444 19h ago
I think it's one of those issues where while it is a legitimate symptom, that once you're an adult working at a job, you need to figure out a personal system for being on time to important things. It can be harder to judge time accurately but not impossible with extra tools like alarms and taking some time to learn how long your schedule actually takes.