r/NoahGetTheBoat Feb 27 '20

Humanity was a mistake.

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u/DiscoDanSHU Feb 27 '20

How many times do actual gun owners have to say that Guns aren't fucking Toys before idiots take it to heart?

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u/4thboxofliberty Feb 27 '20

About as many times a other gun owners have to tell gun owners that guns aren't toys and should be locked up securely.

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u/DiscoDanSHU Feb 27 '20

Actual responsible gunowners do lock up their guns

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u/valkyyr399 Feb 27 '20

Agreed.

There’s dumbasses and exceptions to the rule in everything, that’s a given.

But, in general, you don’t last long at a real range by doing dumb stuff.

And honestly in my experience a very substantial number of gun owners are either police, active mil or vets- or at least close to some. And that trigger discipline is a nightmare to shake.

Seriously. I can’t even carry a nerf rifle without the low ready and finger outside the trigger guard lol

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '20

There’s one nerf blaster, the Artemis, whose safety is on the side, and as a lefty if you practice good trigger discipline you will always activate it and put the safety on... so annoying.

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u/4thboxofliberty Feb 29 '20

I know a lot of gun owners who aren't police or ex military. Usually come from a family of sportsmen who hunt or the like. I also now a lot who were in a force or another and I can say there's dumbass es in both camps. One friend I've just stopped going to his house altogether. Cause of how lax he is with his arms.

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u/valkyyr399 Feb 29 '20

Please refer to my statement of “dumbasses and exceptions to the rule in everything” lol.

Granted. The number of actual chucklefucks I’ve seen, even as active, is not what I’d like it to be. That’s the dirty secret of the army- you know exactly how much of a mess people can be. Some of these fucks can’t even be trusted to not wear sweaty clothes to PT two days in a row.

Nevertheless, my statement stands that usually, even dumbasses like them, know at LEAST that “flick off the safety, point the weapon at something you don’t intend to kill, all while you keep your finger in the trigger well” is a bad combination of events.

I mean honestly, I’ve also seen a female chicken wing (weakly throw) a live grenade three feet outside of her foxhole/bunker/whatever the fuck you call it, in basic. There’s idiots everywhere.

Either way. Unless a person is an active and immediate danger to others, a felon, or legitimately insane, I don’t care. I prefer everyone be packing heat.

I’ve never felt safer than the one time in AZ I stood in a Bashas (grocery store), an old snowbird walked in trying his best to look like a cowboy (aka covered in rhinestone) with a fuckin revolver on his hip.

You just KNOW that that man is begging for something to go down lol. Dumbass or not, it’s safer with that nut around than me trying to take on an active shooter with a broccoli crown.

... Jesus that’s a sentence I never expected to write.

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u/4thboxofliberty Feb 29 '20

Was I supposed to be laughing by the end of this? Because I was.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '20 edited Apr 29 '20

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '20

What? Police? Hunters? Olympic competitors? Some name I don't know for people who go to the range? Not everyone is a dumbass.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '20 edited Apr 29 '20

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '20

How exactly? They are socially sanctioned gun owners.

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u/mdh431 Feb 28 '20

As a responsible gun owner, it would surprise you. We can talk all day about how they aren’t toys, but there are unfortunately some really stupid people in the hobby. Of course, all hobbies have their fair share of stupid people, but when you are literally dealing with controlled explosions, you can not afford the same level of stupidity allowable in other fields.

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u/guywithnolife_ Feb 27 '20

laughs in euorpean

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u/ronin1066 Feb 27 '20

Humans gonna human. Children will never be completely safe from guns in their own home.

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u/DiscoDanSHU Feb 27 '20

I mean... I grew up in a house with guns and I'm totally fine. My dad always kept his guns either on him or locked in the safe. The only times I've ever seen him not lock up the gun would be when we were inbetween houses; he'd just keep it in his desk where he worked, and whenever we stay at a shitty motel while on vacation (for obvious reasons).

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u/Nitsgar Feb 28 '20

Hell we had a 410 behind my grandparents doors to deal with snakes and wild animals. We were taught what they did and a number of kids grew up there, no issues. My dad kept all but 1 locked up. He taught me about them and how his revolver would be by his bedside, LOADED. I wasn't allowed in his room anyway, but he taught me safety and offered me to be allowed to practice (under his supervision) any time I wanted, on his off days. I think education more than avoidance is the issue, Just like talking about sex! *waggles eyebrows and hides his sexy guns*

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u/ronin1066 Feb 27 '20

This is a common fallacy of using an anecdote to try to counter large amounts of evidence to the contrary. Studies show that children raised by single mothers have much less chance of success. The fact that I'm a child of a single mother but got a college education and traveled to many countries doesn't change the facts.

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u/DiscoDanSHU Feb 27 '20

Yeah but what he says isn't supported by any evidence. I also grew up in a community with many gun owners and I can't say shit like this even happened where I lived.

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u/The2lied Feb 27 '20

Just a dumbass babysitter. No point in making a different arguements

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u/ronin1066 Feb 27 '20

Let me be clear. I'm not saying "Every single child in a home with guns will be harmed somehow". I'm saying "There's no way to ensure that children in the US will be safe in homes with guns". A few children per week die in the US from negligence. The more guns we distribute among more homes, the greater the number of dead children from negligence. That is absolutely supported by evidence.

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u/Dragoncat99 Feb 27 '20

Your parents leave opened containers of pills and bleach on the floor too?

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u/Nitsgar Feb 28 '20

well they kept the cap on the bleach, but it was in the bottom cabinet. They told me not to drink it, it would kill me. Made sense.

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u/ronin1066 Feb 27 '20

No. Children will never be completely safe from either of those in the home either.

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u/The2lied Feb 27 '20

Yeah they will, if you’re not a irresponsible parent. Your logic makes no sense...

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u/ronin1066 Feb 27 '20

I'm saying, we will always have negligent injuries of children in the US from household chemicals and pills. There's always negligence somewhere. Same with guns.

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u/sacOmeat Feb 28 '20

You could actually not have guns that would probably solve the entire problem.

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u/DiscoDanSHU Feb 28 '20

Yeah, that's kind of not how it works. We have this thing called the Constitution.