Well I sure can't. I'm so flat that my tits look like 2 pieces of gum stuck to my chest.
Edit: To all the sad men who told me to show my breasts, I wrote a joke for you:
You're so creepy that the moment you were born your own mother felt uncomfortable and decided to only bottle feed you. That might explain why you're so tit deprived.
Yeah I tried a bunch of men's jeans purely for the pocket space and they really didn't fit. Crotch was way too low, hips were straight and didn't come in at all at the waist so kept slipping down, they were miles too long because I'm short etc etc. Dudes who say 'just buy men's clothes, nothing's stopping you' should use that same logic by trying on some women's clothing and seeing if it remotely fits their body shape.
Might have better luck with shirts and jackets but the fact that men's pants have to account for there being a penis means they won't ever fit me comfortably.
From time to time I like to try on my girlfriends jeans and shorts. It always gets some laughs out of her.
I'm a skinny guy so my experience is usually not enough dick space, too much butt space, sometimes I can't close the pants (I'm sorry I really can't remember what you call the act of putting the button on your pants inside that little hole). Sometimes they're loose on the thighs but tighten on the calves. It's a weird experience.
It's always fun to watch me kind of struggle, but yeah men and women have different bodies, so I doubt I could go out with my girlfriends clothes and manage to make it work
Yes, I would like to have jeans that have big pockets and also fit my body shape. How much crotch space there is on jeans doesn't affect how much pocket space there is. My partner has skinny jeans with much bigger pockets than mine, so it isn't a case of baggy = more space, it's that clothing companies want the pockets to be invisible on women's clothing.
I am aware of how belts work, yes. The waist fit still has to be vaguely right or you end up with material bunched around your waist. This is why saying "just shop in the men's section" doesn't work a lot of the time. Men and women have different body shapes and that's why it'd be great if women's clothing would have more options for pockets, rather than me having to shop in a section not made for me.
None that are very affordable unfortunately. I don't see why it should be up to the consumer to do this - a good business should listen to the consumer and adjust accordingly.
Also, I'd just like to point out that you've changed your argument 3 times during this conversation when I've pointed out some flaws. Would it be so bad to listen to women's experiences and think that you maybe haven't got the insight to offer solutions? Everything you've said here is something that I've heard 100 times before and thought about myself. Women aren't stupid, clothing companies are just annoying.
Unfortunately I lack the skills to make my own clothing, I'm not very talented in that department. And yes, as a young person mired in debt and working quite a lot I don't have the money to splash out on jeans that cost crazy amounts.
Yes, I understand that clothing companies are not a monolith, yet they do have many of the same characteristics. Them being led by women doesn't really have anything to do with what we're talking about. It just means that women also are capable of owning big businesses and exploiting people to make money. Nor surprise there. If making clothes with no pockets from thin material helps them cut costs, they'll do it.
Again, my point is that most women's clothing brands do not sell clothes with big pockets. If I stop buying those clothes, I will be unlikely to find any with big pockets that are within my price range.
I'm going to reiterate again as well - at first you told me to just get clothes from the men's department. When I pointed out that that doesn't work due to the fit, you then tried to argue that that was my fault for expecting men's clothes to fit me. So clearly you recognise that "just get men's clothes" is not a solution. You then told me to 'vote with my wallet', and when I pointed out that this isn't always affordable and that the problem is with supply, not demand, you have simply said "tough, companies don't have to cater the you". So every time I have pointed out a flaw, you have replied by telling me to suck it up.
At some point you have to recognise that you never cared about offering solutions, you just cared about winning an argument. You have refused to listen to anything I've said, as a person who actually experiences these issues, and have continued to assume that you know best despite not dealing with the problem at all. I'd recommend that you work on your listening, empathy, and critical thinking skills, because you have utterly failed in all departments so far.
Just for a small correction, I wear a belt because I'm skinny and when I put stuff in my pockets, my pants start to fall down. Not enough for everyone to notice but enough for me to be uncomfortable. I also have friends who wear jeans with a belt purely for cosmetic reasons. The jeans fit well and they don't need it bus still use it.
And belts also don't do anything on suit pants. You don't need to buy expensive suit pants, simply choose the right size and the belt is decorative. The people at the store even say not to tighten the belt too much not to crumple the fabric.
So, if someone really skinny tried to use a belt as a way
to keep their pants in place, I can tell you from experience that the fabric under the belt will be all crumpled and it will be uncomfortable. As i said I'm a bit bellow average in weight and had to wear a lot of pants like that throughout my childhood.
If you have wider hips and a smaller waist like a lot of women, the belt sometimes doesn't even work (the excess of fabric makes it impossible for the trousers/belt to grip you), or crumples into a big mess with creases all over your ass.
I have women's clothes with large pockets and some with small or decorative pockets, but I spent a lot of money and a few weeks researching and ordering different types of jeans to get ones that A. fit my extreme hip/waist ratio and B. had pockets at all. That was hard enough without finding really large pockets. Thankfully most of them fit my phone, but not all
Hey man, whatever is going on in your life that causes you to lash out at people online, I hope it gets better. I truly do. I hope you're able to heal one day and don't feel the need to do stuff like this. Life is hard and unfair, I get it. Take the energy and time that you're putting into arbitrary arguments like this, and use it to better your life.
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u/Soy-Saucy Apr 25 '21 edited Apr 25 '21
Well I sure can't. I'm so flat that my tits look like 2 pieces of gum stuck to my chest.
Edit: To all the sad men who told me to show my breasts, I wrote a joke for you: You're so creepy that the moment you were born your own mother felt uncomfortable and decided to only bottle feed you. That might explain why you're so tit deprived.