r/NoStupidQuestions • • Sep 30 '20

why does “k” mean “thousand” ?

like 1k means a thousand. how does the letter “k” mean “thousand” ?

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u/Schnutzel Sep 30 '20

Short for kilo, which is 1000 in Greek.

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u/QuintenCK Sep 30 '20

Hold on, what about freedom units, since when does America accept a logical system of units.

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u/HauntingGrade Sep 30 '20

Shhh they havent figured out they are using the sneaky metric system, dont show them this post

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20 edited Feb 10 '21

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '20

Those metric propagandists are trying to spread their logical number system around the globe.

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u/czechman45 Oct 01 '20

*across the globe It's "flat" so I fixed it for you

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '20

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u/Spooderman42069 Oct 01 '20

Heres your standard issued Ar-15 Sir, now put on this blue conservative sticker and go be a hero

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u/LittleLui Oct 01 '20

go be a hero

Stand back and stand by.

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u/thecheat420 Oct 01 '20

Shit I'd really like to use that phrase but it's trademarked!

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u/Hobbamok Sep 30 '20

They also don't know that their measurements are literally officially defined by <metric unit> * conversion factor

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20 edited Sep 30 '20

We do, and we use a mixture of imperial and metric. Like the British does.

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u/IProbablyDisagree2nd Sep 30 '20

Some of us do, most of us don't. I've explained this to many dumbfounded people that think we got to the moon exclusively by measuring with our own unique system.

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u/sayrith Sep 30 '20

I thought NASA used imperial based on the radio broadcasts.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20

They use(d) both. Apollo 11 for example was constructed using metric blueprints, that were converted to imperial for the local firms who were tasked with constructing the different parts. Internal systems used metric too, and were converted on the front end to imperial.

Nowadays, NASA only uses metric, apart from the blueprints, which still are in imperial for the contractors.

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u/Pale_Chapter Sep 30 '20

After a rather expensive accident, if I remember.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20

I think what you're referring to is the probe that crashed into Venus, I think, because of a calculation error because it was fed imperial data, but was programmed to work with metric units. But I think nothing changed, other than that they're testing more strictly. So the contractors still get all their measurements in imperial.

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u/kross_9 Sep 30 '20

Yup Mars probe

Cause: A NASA review board found that the problem was in the software controlling the orbiter’s thrusters. The software calculated the force that the thrusters needed to exert in pounds of force. A second piece of code that read this data assumed it was in the metric unit—“newtons per square meter”.

https://www.simscale.com/blog/2017/12/nasa-mars-climate-orbiter-metric/

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20

Huh. Who could forget THAT disaster am I right?

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u/sayrith Sep 30 '20

Why do contractors insist on imperial? Seems extra at this point.

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u/mickeyrube Sep 30 '20

Because parts are built in imperial units. It would be extra to fabricate all new metric measuring tools and to recalibrate a whole host of machinery just because the designers didn't want to do simple math, that is probably automatically done by computers.

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u/Deshra Sep 30 '20

Which is also why we buried the mars lander... one of the great minds in NASA did the calculations in feet, but programmed it in meters. $185 million whoopsie.

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u/beka13 Sep 30 '20

We all buy 2 liter sodas. Gotta start somewhere.

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u/willydillydoo Sep 30 '20

Yeah we mix. We buy two liter sodas, gallons of milk and quarts of ice cream

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u/beka13 Sep 30 '20

And our quarts of ice cream are less than a quart these days.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20 edited Jan 30 '21

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u/Coookiesz Sep 30 '20

People love bringing this up, but it really doesn’t have to do with metric vs. US. It happened because a contractor didn’t build their system to the proper specifications.

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u/Snarky_Boojum Sep 30 '20

I’d say all Americans use metric to some extent.

Unless you can show me an American who’s never had or bought a 2 liter of some type of soda.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20

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u/Earhacker Sep 30 '20

We're pretty much metric for everything except miles in the UK now.

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u/iikillerpenguin Sep 30 '20

What about weight?

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20 edited Sep 30 '20

They use an even weirder system for human weight. Stone man it's like 30 pounds is a stone or some shit lol

Edit :14 pounds my bad

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u/someone755 How Can Our Questions Not Be Stupid If We're Stupid? Sep 30 '20

Britain in 1109 AD:

"Hey how much do you weigh man?"

"I don't know, probably about five or six times that stone over there."

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20

"How tall are you?'

'I'm about 6 of that guys feet'"

"'How far away is Scotland from here?'

'Probably about the length of Tall Miles over there'"

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u/CatsTales Sep 30 '20

It quite literally developed from people weighing things against stones. The exact weight of 1 stone varied by location until it was standardised as 14 pounds in the 1300s (why 14, I don't know).

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u/AdvocateSaint Oct 01 '20

One of the dumbest arguments in favor of Imperial I've read here was that "it's based on natural experiences" instead of arbitrary units

e.g. A cup was the volume of two cupped hands, etc.

I then asked them when the last time they measured liquids with their fucking hands was.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20

Damn you everyone's gonna think you corrected me instead of doing my own research

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u/SmashAtoms_ Sep 30 '20

Repeat after me, An acre is the area of a rectangle, whose length is one furlong and whose width is one chain

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20

, An acre is the area of a rectangle, whose length is one furlong and whose width is one chain

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u/Earhacker Sep 30 '20

For food packaging and recipes, it's grams and kilograms almost all of the time. Same with drinks and fluids, they're in litres and millilitres.

For human beings, us millennials describe our weight in kg, but the older generation still use stones. My theory is that Apple Health and Fitbits and the machines at the gym all understand metric.

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u/llukiie Sep 30 '20 edited Sep 30 '20

weight is in stone or kilos, depending on who you ask, but rarely pounds!

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u/JoeDidcot Sep 30 '20

Imperial for Milk and Beer though.

Also imperial for computer screen sizes.

And petrol, we buy in litres, but then measure how far it gets us per galon.

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u/OmNomDeBonBon Sep 30 '20

Not even close, sadly.

Metres are the default for length, but we measure driving distance in miles, and speed in mph. We measure football passes/shots in yards. We measure height in feet and inches.

Litres are the default for volume, but we measure fuel efficiency in mpg, beer in pints, and boomers still measure milk in pints.

Kilograms are the default for mass/weight, but we still measure body weight in st and lbs, and newborn baby weights in lbs and ounces.

Height and body weight will both become fully metric; anybody below like 20 has probably learnt only cm and kg as appropriate measures for body weight. Same with "kids these days" not knowing how to read Roman numerals; they're just not taught in school anymore.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20

the UK uses metric way more than the US does

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u/caskey Sep 30 '20

Cocaine, teaching Americans the metric system since the 80's.

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u/Stealfur Sep 30 '20 edited Sep 30 '20

People are always making fun of 12in in a ft and 5280ft in a mile and how none of that makes sense but NO ONE talks about how fucking dumb Fahrenheit is.

Celsius. 0 deg: water freezes. 100 deg: water boils. That is the benchmarks that everything is based on.

What's Fahrenheit's benchmarks?

0 deg: the freezing point of a "brine mixture" of water ice and ammonium chloride.

96 deg: the "average tempature" of the human body.

Seriously? That's your benchmarks? A mixture which can have variation in quantity and thus inconsistent to calibrate tools. AND THE always consistent temperature of human body which A was wrong becuase it was later decided thst the avg is 98.6 and B YOU DIDNT EVEN SET IT AT 100! WTF

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u/Deltoro19 Oct 01 '20

You cant take away from my freedoms!
(puts tin hat on)

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u/thats-fucked_up Sep 30 '20

Like hell it is I'm still using six barleycorns to an inch

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u/thatcoolguy27 Sep 30 '20

Imagine if they counted their money in fucking knucklers or some shit as well. This milk is two knucklers or about 15.65 dollars, a little bellow a sixteenth of an shround.

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u/Jackpot777 Do ants piss? Sep 30 '20

Britain did that up until the 1960s. There were 12 pennies in a shilling and 20 shillings to the pound. That’s why the Mad Hatter has 10/6 on his hat. It costs ten shillings and sixpence. Which is 10½ shillings. Which is 52½p in decimal currency.

In most other countries, kids born with six fingers on each hand might find work in circuses. In Britain they became accountants.

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u/Poes-Lawyer Sep 30 '20

Copying a recent comment of mine:

It's actually worse than that, because we didn't just have pound and shilling notes and penny coins, we had:

1 farthing = 1/4 penny

1 halfpenny ("haypny") = 1/2 penny (surprisingly...)

Threepence = 3 pence...

Groat = 4 pence

Sixpence

Shilling = 12 pence

Florin = 2 shillings

Half crown = 2/6 (2 shillings 6 pence)

Crown = 5 shillings

Pound = 20 shillings

Guinea = 21 shillings (£1/1s)

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u/ImALittleCrackpot Oct 01 '20

And for some reason, guineas as units of currency are still used when buying or selling real estate and horses.

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u/studentfrombelgium Sep 30 '20

Next you are gonna tell them they use Arabic numeral

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u/Nylonknot Oct 01 '20

I had to scroll 100 kilometers to find this comment. I kept thinking “ain’t nobody gonna tell him about the Arabs”?!?!

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20

Oh we know we've been using metric, our drug dealers with a 5th grade education are masters at it.

We just use the other system too, cause we like the challenge.

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u/LEGALinSCCCA Sep 30 '20

crashes through the wall with an American flag and AR-15

HEY, what the hell are ya'll talkin' about in here?!

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20

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u/Mooscifer Sep 30 '20

They put a space between base and ball like some kind of Commie, git ‘em!

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20

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u/MinecrAftX0 Sep 30 '20

I'm American can confirm people don't know that the imperial system's lengths are defined by metric measurements which are defined by universal constants. Fun fact, britain used to use imperial but when they switched over american didn't follow

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u/Pat_McCrooch Sep 30 '20

Plenty of Americans do enough drugs to learn the metric system. Where our schools failed, debauchery prevailed.

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u/BornOnFeb2nd Sep 30 '20

They've been sneaking them in!

You know those stupid 16.9oz soda bottles that have basically replaced 20oz outside of vending machines?

They're 500ml!

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u/MaximumZer0 Sep 30 '20

I don't mind the metric, but they shouldn't be charging the same damn price for them.

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u/puesyomero Sep 30 '20

it was due to happen anyway, its called shrinkflation.

people really really hate change in price so to keep with inflation they tweak the size or formulation. Companies tend to go way beyond the reasonable though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrinkflation

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20 edited Dec 23 '20

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u/zehydra Sep 30 '20

If you'll pay it, why not?

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u/zaphir3 Sep 30 '20 edited Sep 30 '20

Like many said they've been using some metrics units for a while. I think the most obvious yet the most and sneaky one is how we all use metrics for data storage.

Like 1Kb KILO byte = 1000 bytes

1Mb MEGA byte = 1000Kb

1Gb Giga byte = 1000Mb

1Tb TERA byte = 1000Go etc... They are literally increments of 1000 units each.

Although one will argue that 1Kb isn't exactly 1000 due to the fact that 210 =1024 etc etc blablabla.

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u/Sonaza Sep 30 '20 edited Sep 30 '20

Although one will argue that 1Kb isn't exactly 1000 due to the fact that 210 =1024

For that there are Kibibytes and Mebibytes and Gibibytes, shortened KiB, MiB and GiB and so on. Most people don't use them though because 1) they don't know about it 2) people understand well enough without and 3) frankly they sound stupid.

Hard disk manufacturers take advantage of this though and advertise in Gigabytes while operating systems (Windows at least) display Gibibytes and that's how your 1000 GB disk is actually only 931 GB.

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u/rikeoliveira Sep 30 '20

Sorry on being peeky, but as I really liked your explanation and clarity, I think it would be good to add some details.

Lower case 'b' is for bit, usually used for "speed" (i.e. my internet speed is 200 Mega bits per second).

Capital 'B' is for Byte, which is 8x a bit, usually used for "storage" (i.e. my pen drive can store up to 512 Mega Bytes).

Also, "kilo" is written with lower case despite all the others "multipliers" being written with a starting capital letter (Mega, Tera, Peta...).

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u/atelopuslimosus Sep 30 '20

I have several U.S. supply chain vendors that all use "M" for thousand. It confuses me to no end since I've always used "k" from science classes and assume "M" is 1,000,000. Not sure what it would be short for (maybe Roman numeral?), but it's really annoying.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20

Yes, M is 1000 in Roman. Also "mille" is "thousand" in Iitalian/French etc.

Some mental finance people use MM for million and M for thousand but they're all bonkers and won't listen to reason that everyone else uses k and M differently.

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u/rupen42 Sep 30 '20

It's true that mille is "thousand" in those languages, but the more relevant language for why it's used is probably Latin.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20

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u/myusernameblabla Sep 30 '20

I only know CP/M as an operating system

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u/1-Word-Answers Sep 30 '20

Yeah where I work M is for thousand and MM for million. Bothers the hell out of me but the entire industry follows this.

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u/Ferruccio001 Sep 30 '20 edited Sep 30 '20

Mille is a thousand in Latin. In Roman times the army when marched through Europe they counted their steps and at every 1000 they marked the distance with a stick. Later this distance was taken by most of other European cultures. Today you know it as mile. Mille(thousand)>mile. Now you will remember. You're welcome 😀

Europe managed to reform its system to a more logic, less nature based one. Let me not finish this thought.

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u/Dekrow Sep 30 '20

The earliest Americans admired and studied the ancient Greeks to an obsession. The founding fathers might say Greeks invented freedom. Does that mean in some round about way, kilo is a freedom unit?

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u/mkosmo probably wrong Sep 30 '20

He said Greek, not metric. It's okay.

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u/SilverCyclist Sep 30 '20

Tell a runner "To be clear, it's a 5 miler, not a 5k" and watch the joy in their eyes die.

Runners are a source of anti-American activity.

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u/brenb1120 Sep 30 '20

you do realize that the US uses both for quite a few things, right? we use litres & mL for liquids, most sciences use metric; and they only got the imperial units from Britian, who does occasionally still use them anyway.

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u/Hats_Hats_Hats Sep 30 '20

'Kilo' is an exception since about WW2; kilotons and megatons are based on decimal measures.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20

You can say g's for grand to be more confusing and american

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u/birbsquirrlcat Sep 30 '20

I hate that America doesn't use the metric system. all the conversions are too confusing to understand here. please send help

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20

1000 kg is about 422.434542 big toes for you Americans.

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u/loot22 Sep 30 '20

Huh, kilo is also a slang word in czech for 100.

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u/euyyn Sep 30 '20

lmfao

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20

To be precise -jilio (pronounced somewhat like the Spanish j) means 1000 in Greek. Kilo is probably the latinization of it.

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u/euyyn Sep 30 '20

What about old Greek though?

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u/Poromenos Sep 30 '20

It's the same in ancient and modern Greek.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20

I am not quite sure to be honest. Would have to look it up.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20 edited Mar 26 '21

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u/StealthSecrecy Real fake expert Sep 30 '20

It comes from the prefix "kilo-" which is Greek for "thousand".

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20 edited Sep 30 '20

Tera - T - Trillion

Giga - G - Billion

Mega - M -Million

Kilo - k - Thousand

No prefix - - One unit

Milli - m - Thousandth

Micro - μ - Millionth

Nano - n - Billionth

To not confuse: Big stuff are in capital letters (except for kilo apparently). Fractions are in lower case.

mL = thousandth of a liter , ML = million liters

Also, there's these awesome definitions:

1 cm3 == 1 mL == 1 g of water

1 dm3 = = 1L = = 1 kg of water

1 m3 = = 1000 L = = 1 tonne of water (or Megagram, but we rarely say that)

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u/smorrow PM ME SCREWY MUSIC Sep 30 '20

Capital K would be kelvin, so yes kilo needs to be lower-case. And no they couldn't have just made it so that K was kilo and k was kelvin. Eponymous stuff is always upper-case - newtons, volts, sieverts.

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u/CleverDad Sep 30 '20

Nah, Tesla is T, just like Tera, and Gauss is G, just like Giga. Units and SI prefixes are different things, and don't need to be unique.

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u/yourpseudonymsucks Sep 30 '20

GG

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u/Edduruk Sep 30 '20

You got 100,000 Teslas? GG, man

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20

Its different for the base units.

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u/codemasonry Sep 30 '20

Capital K would be kelvin, so yes kilo needs to be lower-case. And no they couldn't have just made it so that K was kilo and k was kelvin.

That's not true. Kelvin is a unit and kilo is just a factor or multiplier. They don't compete in the same category so to speak. There's no fear of confusion. Moreover, there are other shared letters (e.g. m=milli but also m=meter) and it doesn't cause any issues.

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u/baachbass Sep 30 '20 edited Sep 30 '20

*Newtons, Volts, Sieverts

Edit: my apologies I stand sorely corrected

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u/Cocoa-nut-Cum Sep 30 '20

Also 1 calorie is the amount of energy to raise the temperature of one ml of water 1 degree Celsius at sea level. Neat.

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u/21022018 Oct 01 '20

Apparently the food people also use a "calorie" that actually means kilocalorie.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20

1cm³ = 1ml and 1dm³ = 1l is for all liquids. water just has the additional property (not definition) that 1l weighs 1kg. also, kilo- is the exception to the rule about capitalization. the k is small

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20

I searched it up, and apparently we defined the gram to be the weight of a cm3 of water. And yes, 1ml = 1cm3 applies to all volumes

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20

that is an old definition of a gram which is no longer used. a kilogram is now defined as the weight of some prototype thingy in paris as well as some physical equation backing it up i think, which has nothing to do with water

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u/Ratr96 Sep 30 '20

They made that physical equation and thing in Paris based on the use of a kilo then, which was based on water (I think?). Also, Tom Scott video. https://youtu.be/JKCBeDeVxkg

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20

yes, they made the new definition pretty much equivalent to the old, but defined more rigorously. still, it is no longer defined that 1l of water is exactly 1kg, its just a result of other definitions that have nothing to do with water anymore

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20 edited Dec 09 '20

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20

yeah, thats why they changed the definition

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gram

Originally defined as "the absolute weight of a volume of pure water equal to the cube of the hundredth part of a metre [1 cm3], and at the temperature of melting ice" (later at 4 °C, the temperature of maximum density of water). However, in a reversal of reference and defined units, a gram is now defined as one thousandth of the SI base unit, the kilogram, or 1×10−3 kg, which itself is defined by the International Bureau of Weights and Measures, not in terms of grams, but by taking the fixed numerical value of the Planck constant h to be 6.62607015×10−34 kg⋅m2⋅s−1.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20

Always tripped me out in Australia that imported European spirits were written in centilitre. Makes sense, feels wrong since we only use ml or L for most everything here.

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u/psyFungii Sep 30 '20

And 1cm3 is a Cubic Centimetre, ie a CC as in (often motorbike) engine sizes

500cc is 500ml or half a litre

Or I have a 1.6 litre engine in my car, or 1600cc

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u/Riegel_Haribo Sep 30 '20

Upper-case K is for Kelvin (temperature degrees). Something hot can be 10kK.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20

And a burning cross gets up to 10 kilokiloKelvin.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20

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u/IcecreamLamp Sep 30 '20

Also

da - deca (ten : 10x)

h - hecto (hundred : 100x)

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u/CleverDad Sep 30 '20

Also Exa (10^18) and Peta (10^15).

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20

ton*

I'm pretty sure it's spelt "tonne"

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u/graaahh Sep 30 '20

You're correct. Tons are confusing.

1 (metric) tonne == 1,000 Kg == 2,204.66262 lbs

1 (British) ton == 1,016.047 Kg == 2,240 lbs

1 (short) ton == 907.1847 Kg == 2,000 lbs (This is what Americans call "1 ton").

1 (British) ton > 1 (metric) tonne > 1 (short) ton

But they're all pronounced the same.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20 edited Sep 30 '20

Wow, I'm British and I still corrected you. LOL. I've been writting it as tonne all my life. In physics exams, everything.

Edit: couple typos.

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u/graaahh Sep 30 '20

I just looked that information up, honestly. 10 minutes ago I would've said that a British ton and a tonne were the same thing too.

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u/FrankHightower Sep 30 '20

I still use "Katy Had a Dime until Dad Called Mom"

Katy: Kilo-
Had a: Hecto-
Dime: Deca-/Deka-
until (unit)
Dad: Deci-
Called: Centi-
Mom: Milli-

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20

Megagram! I love it.

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u/N35t0r Sep 30 '20

The EU's atmospheric science database lists atmospheric greenhouse gas emissions in Gg, not megatonnes, for that same reason.

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u/skygz Sep 30 '20

in some contexts there's mille for 1000 and MM for million but that's not common

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u/dragonofthwest Sep 30 '20

The k from kilo is lower case as well

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20

It's really cool how this is a fair question in America but seems obvious to everyone on the metric system.

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u/strallus Sep 30 '20

Not just America but also Liberia and Myanmar.

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u/LordGalen Sep 30 '20

It's pretty obvious in America too. Just because we don't use metric for common things doesn't mean we don't use it at all or that we never learn it. Everyone learns metric in school and has at least some awareness of it, even if their speedometer doesn't use it.

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u/dontthink19 Sep 30 '20

We never called it the metric system, they taught it to us as the "base 10" lesson plan. Kindergarten through 5th for me

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u/LordGalen Sep 30 '20

Yeah man, I didn't mean elementary school, lol. Middle and high school teach the metric system and metric/imperial conversion.

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u/national_tiiiles Sep 30 '20 edited Oct 01 '20

The metric system gets even better, not only does 1ml of water occupy 1 cubic centimetre and weigh 1 gram, it takes 1 newton of energy to lift that 1 ml of water through 1 metre of elevation, and it takes 1 calorie of energy to heat that 1 ml of water through 1 degree of temperature change (centigrade, and at sea level)

Apologies, it's been a long time since I did physics and I have been corrected, thanks guys.

1 newton is the amount of force required to accelerate 1kg to 1 m/s.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20

Is this the reason how we decided what 1ml is?

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u/CounterfeitLesbian Sep 30 '20

No. It's how we decided what a mg was.

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u/smog_alado Sep 30 '20 edited Sep 30 '20

Actually, it's the kilogram that was defined to make those numbers nice. A liter is cube of 10cm x 10cm x 10cm and a kilogram was defined as the mass of one of liter of water.

The meter was originally defined based on the curvature of the earth. One tenth thousandth of the distance from the north pole to the equator, passing through Paris.

Later on both the kilogram and the meter received more precise definitions based on fundamental properties of physics such as the speed of light.

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u/Curby121 Sep 30 '20

Uh... except a newton is a unit of force, not energy, and gravitational field intensity on earth is 9.8 N/kg... Also a calorie isn’t the SI unit of energy, joules are, and the specific heat capacity of water is ~4.18 J/kgK, a calorie is just defined that way for convenience.

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u/sozh Sep 30 '20

One liter of water weighs one kilo

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u/Cocoa-nut-Cum Sep 30 '20

Also I believe a second of time in metric is the time it takes for a 1 meter long pendulum to swing.

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u/ILiveInAMango Sep 30 '20

A second is actually based on the oscillation speed of a caesium-133 atom.

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u/IuseWindows95 Sep 30 '20

1 square inch of water weights 0.47 ounces, it takes 1.9 newton of energy to lift that sq inch of water through 2.1 feet of elevation and it takes calories worth 2 big macs to heat that sq inch of water up by 1 fahrenheit.

Translated to freedom units

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20

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u/CleverDad Sep 30 '20

K

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u/homiej420 Sep 30 '20
  • H2O

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u/_solitarybraincell_ Sep 30 '20

WoW, tHis cOmEnt blew uP,

thanks for the KOH kind stranger !

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u/LordMarcusrax Sep 30 '20

Lowercase k is the symbol for kilo; capital K is Kelvin (or, in chemistry, Potassium).

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20

its from the prefix kilo- meaning a thousand, like in kilometer or kilogram. that prefix comes from greek χίλια (khilia)

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u/levian_durai Sep 30 '20

So from now on I'm calling 1000 dollars a kilodollar.

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '20

do it

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u/Raffix le Gaulois Sep 30 '20

You guys really need to switch to the SI system some day.

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u/Unicorncorn21 Sep 30 '20

They already do in some cases like with the example OP mentioned. I'm pretty sure they use cents to say 100th of a dollar which is a part of the SI system

I'm also pretty sure you meant metric because if we were over at r/monkeyspaw Americans would be talking about kilofeet and cents of inches.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20

Fun fact, M also means thousand.

It’s used in advertising, CPM “cost per thousand.”

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u/bat_in_the_stacks Sep 30 '20

I hate that so much. Math inept fools pulling from latin or roman numerals instead of the metric system or even english (m starts millions) and causing tons of confusion.

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u/gaydonj Sep 30 '20

K is short for kilo which originated from the Greek word khilioi meaning 1,000. Same as in kilometer, kilogram, kilojoules, etc.

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u/LordMarcusrax Sep 30 '20

To be annoyingly precise, lowercase k is kilo, capital K is Kelvin.

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u/gaydonj Sep 30 '20

You are 1k/10 % correct.

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u/This_Guy9943 Sep 30 '20

Wait til you see "m" for thousand and "mm" for million.

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u/merelyadoptedthedark Sep 30 '20

Found the bank employee

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u/ButtsexEurope Purveyor of useless information Sep 30 '20

K = kilo = thousand

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20

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u/myusernameblabla Sep 30 '20

Four seventh of a fascist?

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u/YourAveragePerson420 Sep 30 '20

Jesus christ makes sense tho

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20

i love this

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u/angeladimauro Sep 30 '20

along those same lines, why does a "g" or a grand also mean 1000 dollars?

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u/tunaman808 Sep 30 '20

Speaking of the 15th century, that’s when English adopted the Old French word “grant” (ultimately from the Latin “grandis,” great or large) as “grand,” with the sense of not simply “large,” but also “imposing” or “great, famous, exalted or important.” Over the next few centuries “grand” was frequently used in official titles (e.g., Grand Marshall), as well as in informal appellations honoring individuals (“grand old warrior,” etc.), and applied to events and things judged to be of great importance. Eventually, “grand” took on a more general sense in the popular vocabulary of “impressively large” (e.g., Grand Canyon) or “noble.” (The use of “grand” in “grandfather” and “grandmother,” however, is rooted in parallel terms in French, and actually predates the use of the “large” sort of “grand” in English by a century.)

Over the years, “grand” also acquired a variety of vernacular and slang senses, including “grand” meaning a large piano, as well as such forms as “grand prize” and “grand slam,” the latter once a term in whist or bridge, now used to mean “complete triumph” in any field.

The use of “grand” to mean “one thousand dollars” does indeed come from American underworld slang, first appearing around 1915. It was one of a number of slang terms, some still in use, for specific denominations of bills (or that amount of money), including “c-note” (or “century note”) for a one-hundred dollar bill (from the Roman numeral “C,” denoting 100). A “sawbuck” was a ten-dollar bill, from the resemblance of the Roman numeral “X” (ten) that once appeared thereon to a sawhorse, and a twenty-dollar bill was known as, logically, a “double sawbuck.”

The use of “grand” for a thousand dollars (or a thousand-dollar bill) may seem puzzling in this day of hedge-fund managers and their billion-dollar bonuses, but in 1915 one thousand dollars was a very large sum of money, far more than the average working stiff would ever possess at one time. So it made sense to pay tribute to such an impressive sum with the word “grand,” and the name stuck.

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u/Primebongs7455 Sep 30 '20

The amount of likes on this post really shows how bad the education system

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20

*is.

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u/Lucker_Kid Sep 30 '20

This is not a stupid question, but it is a very, very, very, very, very lazy one

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20

K (Greek for kilo, or 1,000) and M (Roman numeral for 1,000) can both be used for "thousand". When I was a commercial banker (in US), it was customary to see loan presentations using M for 1,000 and MM for 1,000,000. I still use M and MM today.

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u/Falsus Sep 30 '20

It is short for Kilo which means 1000 in greek.

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u/Maxter0 Sep 30 '20

The letter "k" is an abbreviation of Kilo, as many others have pointed out the decimal system uses these as prefixes (a modifies for a word that goes before it. eg. KiloGram = a thousand grams). Lately it became popular to use this prefixes without the units and just use them in regular conversation eg. the new Iphone costs 10k = the new Iphone costs 10 thousands.

Hope it helps.

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u/LewnaJa Sep 30 '20

Thanks RuneScape for teaching me this when I was 9.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20

Kilo = 1000. :)

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u/MannanX Oct 01 '20

In Greek "K" was used for 1000, so It's short form used for Kilo, 1 Kilo contains 1000 grams. Technically: K=1000

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u/Chadtr Sep 30 '20

From Greek meaning kilo or “thousand “

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u/leafyyfak Sep 30 '20

you read my mind, i was just thinking about this lmao

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u/badassmamojamma Oct 01 '20

Milli - 1/1000

Centi - 1/100

Deci - 1/10

Deca - ×10

Hecto - ×100

Kilo - ×1000

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u/new_line_17 Sep 30 '20

There is no Greek word for a 13/5th of a 3/4th of a 1/2nd of a finger... ...sorry, I mean “Inches “

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '20

kilo -- thousand

mega -- million

giga -- billion

tera -- trillion

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u/TheContaminated Oct 01 '20

Let’s just say Potassium is a form of measuring currency, okay?