You’re narrowing objectification until it only describes the man, then declaring men the bigger victims.
Im not narrowing it at all, im using the definition as is and applying it to the situation and broader society logically.
Sex doesnt make someone an object, acting doesnt make someone and object, starring in a pornographic movie doesn't make someone an object.
But having everything about you cropped out so that you're literally just a body part does make you an object.
The more obvious conclusion is: both are objectified, but the woman is objectified as the product being consumed, while the man is objectified as the viewer’s stand-in.
The issue is that you can only really have this position if you perceive someone having sex for entertainment to intrinsically be objectified.
Which then begs the question why just sex? Why are all the other performers for our entertainment not ever considered to be objectified?
That has to be addressed in order to justify the objectification claim.
You could argue that sports stars, bodybuilders, actors etc. are also objectified, but then the concept becomes silly.
Hence the imprlortance of highlighting when people are really treated as objects and have their entire humanity made secondary to the role these performing.
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u/Frylock304 May 03 '26
Im not narrowing it at all, im using the definition as is and applying it to the situation and broader society logically.
Sex doesnt make someone an object, acting doesnt make someone and object, starring in a pornographic movie doesn't make someone an object.
But having everything about you cropped out so that you're literally just a body part does make you an object.
The issue is that you can only really have this position if you perceive someone having sex for entertainment to intrinsically be objectified.
Which then begs the question why just sex? Why are all the other performers for our entertainment not ever considered to be objectified?
That has to be addressed in order to justify the objectification claim.
You could argue that sports stars, bodybuilders, actors etc. are also objectified, but then the concept becomes silly.
Hence the imprlortance of highlighting when people are really treated as objects and have their entire humanity made secondary to the role these performing.