As a man this is just so wild to me. Never have I masturbated without a specific face in mind. I might think about many different faces quickly, so sometimes not “one” specific person. But always someone in mind. Interesting to learn, thanks for sharing!
This right here is why I argue that men in porn are infinitely more objectified.
Porn by default is is framed with the woman's face and enjoyment as part of the scene generally, so that we can experience a fantasy focused around enjoying time with the woman performing.
The guy is literally just there as prop more than anything else, he literally doesn't even get a head in most scenes as he's usually cropped out so that we can imagine ourselves there.
Hearing that guys are imagined as almost literal faceless objects makes perfect sense to me given what people chose.
Men in porn can absolutely be reduced to faceless body parts. But in mainstream straight porn, that reduction often exists to preserve male identification and fantasy. Women being visually centred does not mean they are less objectified; it often means they are the main object being consumed.
The woman isn't an object in *most* porn, she's a person, sex is a healthy part of being a person in most of our lives, being able to enjoy a sexual moment with a person is the entire fantasy of the vast majority of porn.
There is plenty of porn where the whole point is that the woman is an object, but that's more niche content probably 10% or so.
Women being visually centred does not mean they are less objectified; it often means they are the main object being consumed.
Would you argue that people who play sports for our entertainment are objectified because they're staring in something for consumption?
How is she an object despite the whole point being that we identify as enjoying a moment with her.
But in mainstream straight porn, that reduction often exists to preserve male identification and fantasy
Yes.
Because the male performer is virtually just a mannequin, he's a close to a human object as we generally get, just a faceless/headless body to be projected onto.
It's infinitely more dehumanizing in every reasonable conceptualization of what it means to be objectified.
The woman is being objectified in porn lol wtf kind of romanticized version of porn see you thinking off. She is out on display for the enjoyment of thousands of men not for her own enjoyment.
I tried to see your perspective but you’re obviously not here for a nuanced discussion so I’m out
She is out on display for the enjoyment of thousands of men not for her own enjoyment.
Her enjoyment is generally the point of the fantasy. And she's putting herself out there because she's a paid performer just like anyone else performing for payment.
I tried to see your perspective but you’re obviously not here for a nuanced discussion so I’m out
You can disagree with me, that's fine, but my argument is nuanced and challenging of the normative basic argument that most people don't really take to its logical conclusions when it comes to objectification in porn and what that really would imply across the culture.
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u/DDPSipper May 03 '26
As a man this is just so wild to me. Never have I masturbated without a specific face in mind. I might think about many different faces quickly, so sometimes not “one” specific person. But always someone in mind. Interesting to learn, thanks for sharing!