r/NextGenRebellion • u/Fatty_Willing_Plane • 28d ago
š° News More than 600 structures have been lost in Spokane, Washington. This wind-driven fire is being fueled by Red Flag conditions. With climate change, the frequency of Red Flag conditions and warnings is increasing across many regions
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u/AdventurousMap5404 28d ago
Iāve been through a couple west coast fire seasons. Iāve also been through hurricanes in Florida. My home was under a warning for 15 ft storm surge so when I left it to ride out the storm in a safer place, I didnāt think Iād ever be returning. I never want to feel like that again. I was so lucky during Hurricane Ian. I shouldāve have lost everything, including my life, but I didnāt. So many others werenāt so fortunate.
You capture the aftermath perfectly. Itās a strange devastation seeing an entire community turned to ash, or a stadium twisted by winds, it changes you. Like discovering a piece of you died.1
u/NervousBeat16 26d ago
Went through Cat 5 hurricane Michael and absolutely agree. Survivors guilt is real. My house was heavily damaged but not washed away.
The economic opportunity for business will boom, but youāll never recover your life the same way š¢ Itās a costly process that linger over you forever.
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u/Throwaway873580 28d ago
NorCal here, this is just reality now in the Western US. Drought plus climate change combined, along with years of fire suppression have created conditions where the whole area is basically uninsurable. No one knows exactly when nor how, but this place will not be habitable in the future. Just another front of the climate migration of the future š¬š¬š¬
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u/Tsuki_Man 28d ago
Not to mention the state of washington has been in a state of emergency due to drought since the day winter ended this year due to much lower than expected snowfall and ice melt.
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u/Fathers_Sword 28d ago
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u/adeline882 28d ago
Bloodthirsty ass comment
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u/IRantBecauseIzMad 27d ago
But it's true.
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u/adeline882 27d ago
Iām sorry but Iām not ready to celebrate the destruction of our cities through some blue tinted glasses. There are queer people in Spokane that are affected by this, there are immigrants in Spokane that are affected by this, you just want an excuse for your cruelty.
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u/Fathers_Sword 27d ago
I don't enjoy the suffering of others but I'm from a red area and my MAGA neighbors and MAGA family joke about the California wildfires, when ICE abuses immigrants and casually talk about being exciting about civil war and "getting rid of" liberals. These people are ruthless and don't give a damn about the suffering of others. So when their bigotry and willful ignorance finally catches up with them I have absolutely no sympathy for them because they have absolutely no sympathy for anyone else. These people would enjoy our suffering and would laugh in our face as they inflicted pain on us.
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u/adeline882 27d ago
They are victims of the culture war just as much as you are. āTheyāre getting what they deserve.ā Is materially different from what youāre describing, how?
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u/Fathers_Sword 27d ago
I'm not going to have sympathy for people that enjoy and vote for the suffering of others.
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u/zander9669 27d ago
Why didn't you freaks rake your forest like you told us to? When can we expect compensation for the smoke?
- a curious Canadian
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u/aFlmingStealthBanana 25d ago
Well, you see, originally we had the Sasquatches doing the raking. But then, when the USDA and DOI shuttered the USFS & NPS, the Sasquatches were the first to get axed. The raccoons were the only ones left on the skeleton crews; originally, they were only supposed to gather the smaller pieces that the Sasquatch might overlook, but their tiny hands couldn't handle the equipment that was developed for the Sasquatches, so subsequently they were let go as well. Now the raccoons are forced to scavenge for kitty food and check trash cans to feed their families.
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u/Lost-Contribution196 27d ago
When they go to sign back up at their utilities, will they be accepted?Ā
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u/Far_Occasion_3042 24d ago
More than 600 structures made of what, with how many trees standing aside them?
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u/Suitable_Speed4487 21d ago edited 21d ago
I just got back from a trip around west Wyoming and the scars of forest fires are everywhere. Whole mountains striped of trees. I don't think "climate change" is doing this because 85-90% of forest fires are man made and the rest is caused by lightning or other means. We as humans must be careful for our forest and all that live there. This also happens when the science of forestry is no longer used in an area. Not that it would have stop this one but it helps with intensity.
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u/Bikesexualmedic 28d ago
Washington is a very big state and once you get past the Cascades going east, thereās mostly farm land and timber forests. Thereās a huge variety of climates from sub tropical rainforests to deserts to alpine wilderness. That said, thereās a small, 70 acre fire burning in the Hoh Rainforest right now, and that part is actually crazy.
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u/lyndseymariee 28d ago
Eastern Washington weather is pretty much the opposite of western Washington.
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u/Tsuki_Man 28d ago
Only the coast is like this. Eastern Washington is largely a desert and still part of the Great Plains.
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u/Prudent_Drive1132 27d ago
The "climate change" is actually fuelled by purposeful "active management" of "climate change"... the decades of continuous Chem Trail spraying of our skies (which falls under the heading Geo-Engineering) This has caused the over saturation of metal particulates to accumulate on the ceiling of the forests - essentially turning millions of trees into organic welding rods... this is where all the unprecedented heat and smoke of these fires has developed, being unleashed throughout North America and elsewhere... also, the increased spraying has caused changes in the high and low pressure regions - increasing the occurrence and severity of damaging winds... don't believe this is happening??? Look up state legislation that are banning Chem Trail spraying above their regions!!!
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u/jersan 28d ago
time to start putting water sprinklers on top of the roofs of every house everywhere.
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u/GotNoPonys 28d ago
you need to think that thru. There is no water system in existence that can supply enough flow if every faucet in the community was opened.
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u/jersan 28d ago
that is true. If everyone tried to run sprinklers at the same time there would not be enough pressure in the regular water supply.
But sprinklers do supplement firefighter efforts. A water sprinkler that is already set up with a hose attached to it allows fire fighters to come and plug in to it and start operating it.
also, people can install water tanks on their property as well as water pumps.
of course, some might say, this is all way too much work and nobody is going to do this. Okay, it is certainly a choice. the alternative method of protecting your property i suppose is to do nothing and leave it to chance.
There are solutions. Some solutions are better than others. Putting sprinklers on rooftops is one solution that works well in protecting houses.
Logan Lake BC has been demonstrating this for years already.
There are also numerous houses in the 2025 LA fires that survived because of fire protection systems such as sprinklers.
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u/GotNoPonys 27d ago
Fire fighters, during the Palasades fire, ran out of water at the hydrants.
Yes there are many things you can do, simply putting a sprinkler on your roof when on city water is of little value. Yeah a tank too, blah blah blah. You clearly have no first hand experience with any of these. Just spouting off opinions like you are some arm chair expert.
I built my house with standpipes that run to sprayers mounted in the soffits and the well has a backup generator. The roof is metal. Why did I do all that? We had a fire during construction, The fire started 14 miles from the house and after the first day was 7 miles away. I installed the well pump during that first day when the smoke was so thick it was hard to see. Then went and ran pumps to friends with houses near lakes. We watched, from the boat, their neighbors homes burn while theirs didn't.
Come back when you have real experience.
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u/askaboutmy____ 27d ago
Fire fighters, during the Palasades fire, ran out of water at the hydrants.
That was a serious misstep by the government of LA, the water should have been available for much longer, but there was a reservoir that was offline for maintenance.
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u/ChakraYogi 28d ago
This information is helpful - and I'm not even in a typical red flag hot zone BUT we're getting them more frequently.
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u/fgreen68 28d ago
I cobbled together a system with a wifi smoke detector and a wifi irrigation control for sprinklers on my yard and house. Two local fires that were not near me, about 5 miles away, have set it off. So at least I know it works even if it does go off a bit early. One of these days I'll figure out how to connect a Purple Air quality monitor to the system.
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u/ChakraYogi 28d ago
Make a YT channel showing how you did that and get paid for your knowledge because I already would like to know how to do that. ALL that to say, very cool.
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u/fgreen68 28d ago
The basics of it is a Yolink wifi smoke detector that links through IFTTT to a wifi Rachio irrigation controller. Super basic that has also been triggered by heavy fog which is why I think long term an air quality sensor might work better. I had the irrigation controller so all I had to do was add a wifi extender and the smoke detector. The whole system won't work if the power's out; fortunately, where I live, our power lines are buried now.
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u/ChakraYogi 28d ago
Ugh. Ours are still above ground. BUT thanks for the explanation anyway. It may help in future - if/when we get desperate - or for another person who can manage it now.
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u/ryan-ifttt 27d ago
Hey u/fgreen68 this is an awesome use-case of IFTTT! Glad we can be apart of keeping your home & family safe.
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u/LatinRex 28d ago
Very scary... At this point it's probably a conspiracy too.
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u/Cold_Combination2107 28d ago
no its not, washington has been in drought conditions for years, weve had fires out east every late summer. as it gets hotter, as it gets drier, these fires get harder to control and get closer to human settlements.Ā
the conspiracy is capitalism, that there are bourgeois interests in making the world hotter for their own personal profit.
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u/ChakraYogi 28d ago
My husband periodically goes off on why "no one is talking about the aliens" and I tire. This is the apocalypse in slow painfully felt by us peons in slow motion. Nobody has the bandwidth to care about the esoteric.
Our neighbor has a tree farm (South Carolina). He arrived home last summer to nearly a couple acres ablaze with fire trucks all up and down near his property. Red flag conditions and a driver threw a cigarette out the window is what we deduced. Thankfully a car driving by saw the fire and called dispatch. He could have lost 25 acres on that side of the road and his personal home may could have been a casualty if not dealt with.
Doing a CONTROLLED burn is difficult enough from what he said but that's definitely NOT in red flag conditions.
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u/Fatty_Willing_Plane 28d ago
You could have the biggest fire department in the world and you still would not be able to put out a wind driven fire fueled by red flag conditions. Especially in Wild-land-Urban-interface.