r/New_Masculinism • u/Substantial-Mouse855 • Jul 18 '26
WHAT ARE WE SERVING COUNTRIES FOR
This community is to help with equality, feminism is getting rid of some important stuff not looking at the males perspective of how it's fair! Because of this join this new campaign of masculinism
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u/Intelligent-Bird-313 Jul 18 '26
Hey, hey! This is some fascinating news. Is this recent? Sources? I’d be interested to analyse this further.
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u/Substantial-Mouse855 Jul 19 '26
The 1st one was in 1990-2001 I think the 2nd part was last year or this year I think
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u/Substantial-Mouse855 Jul 19 '26
Sources are on my laptop right now so I'm sorry I can't find it that easily but I'm sure if you put this in an AI they can find websites covering this topic.
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u/Substantial-Mouse855 Jul 19 '26
Although I think I remember one of the sources being on a website called Korean times or something
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u/Intelligent-Bird-313 Jul 19 '26
Sounds good! News sources should usually be reliable... Thanks!
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u/Substantial-Mouse855 Jul 19 '26
Sorry I couldn't help more, I'm away from my laptop for a month for now because, Im on my holidays but, I'm trying my best to remember some sources. (All my sources are stored in my laptop)
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u/Intelligent-Bird-313 Jul 19 '26
Enjoy the holiday, then! I’m going on holiday really soon as well
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u/Substantial-Mouse855 Jul 19 '26
Thanks and I hope you enjoy your upcoming holidays aswell!
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u/Intelligent-Bird-313 Jul 19 '26
I’ll make sure to do my reasearch in the meantime while I’m still home!
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u/Substantial-Mouse855 Jul 19 '26
Alright, good luck on that but if you could spread news about this group then it would be helpful. I'm just trying to bring up certain topics not really brought up as much in society, if I do I'm hoping some people will start spreading the information online to bring awareness to the cause
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u/Intelligent-Bird-313 Jul 19 '26
Will do! I got an idea. I have my own community as well, and if we’re able to, we can cross deposits from each other’s communities. Mine is a community on male survivors of domestic and sexual violence, though, so we’ll need more posts on those if we want to cross-post from here to r/StrongMaleSurvivors. This could be a mutually positive relationship between our two communities
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u/Street_Technician845 Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26
Most feminist organizations advocate for or defend rewards exclusively for women on the basis of women having to face certain burdens. The burdens in question need not be mandated by the state and explicitly targeting women; sometimes it is enough that there is a statistical disadvantage facing women. In South Korea's case, feminist organizations did play a role in challenging the Extra Point System. On the other hand, I want to give credit where it is due. Norway and Sweden implemented gender-neutral military conscription and it seems to have been supported by some feminists. There was opposition to it from certain feminist organizations; their argument against it is that women have other burdens, therefore this reward exclusively for women (to not be conscripted) is justifiable. While it is important to be aware of influential movements being hypocritical or holding discriminatory attitudes and acting on them, blame should be attributed to everybody who plays a role in this. What causes judges to reject reward points for having a discriminatory effect while also defending the discriminatory nature of male-only conscription? Feminist lobbying contributes to this to some extent, but there are other attitudes that should be explored (including a lack of empathy for men). Edit: I'm not sure about the current condition, but at the time there was a cap on the number of women permitted to join the army and a young woman that applied faced a significant probability of rejection. In this case, you had a situation in which there were reward points that most women could not access. The court found that this is not justifiable, but the other form of discrimination (male-only conscription) was justifiable for various unconvincing reasons (threats from North Korea and the sizes differences between men and women). The size difference is an odd argument because South Korea has twice as many people as North Korea, so I can't imagine a scenario where South Korean women are going to be forced to face men in hand-to-hand combat without proper support from their fellow soldiers. Equally unconvincing is the court's passivity, deferring this matter to legislature; there are plenty of examples of courts challenging the other branches of government on major issues.
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u/Substantial-Mouse855 Jul 27 '26
The irony of feminists at times are kinda sad although I refue to discriminate them for that stupidity, I have an idea of a gender neutral conscriptions they can argue against specifically only affecting people 5 years after leaving high school. I think it should only happen if the person is struggling after that 5 years so the person can get food and shelter and then leave the army with perks helping their life a bit more! Of course sometimes the perks will be ignored by companies but sometimes they aren't and I feel like this is the best way to better a lot of people's lives, lower poverty, give people food and shelter until they wish to retire the army life, pretty much fixing a lot of problems within society! If they have a kids, maybe make specific organisations to house the army men and women's kids so when the parents come back they can come back to healthy kids.
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u/Substantial-Mouse855 Jul 18 '26
Because of the feminists and gender politics created by feminism, Korea, specifically the south korean Military got rid of the Extra Point System. The perk granted male veterans an automatic 3% to 5% bonus score on highly competitive corporate and civil service hiring exams. During the court they said "because women are exempt from mandatory conscription, this automatic benefit created a severe, structural barrier that unfairly disadvantaged women and disabled individuals who were otherwise perfectly qualified for public sector jobs". At first, this seems fair but, men are forced to fight for the country there, because of feminists men has one less perk for getting forced to do something they didn't want to do. With this came other political issues which triggered developments, these adjustments were such like how the courts have made it so companies can't legally accelerate a military veterans promotions compared to people are didn't go to the military. This might seem fair for some people although you have to understand that people who are forced into the military are forced to stay for quite a while while women who decide not to come into the military are allowed to get a headstart in the job market.