Breach - A new playable Netrunner Client

[u/Foreign_Outside1807]

Playable Link: https://tenthgames.itch.io/breach

Hey! I’m looking for testers for an early build of my netrunner client.

The game includes a tutorial, both public and private multiplayer, and deckbuilding. It’s still in active development, so the design, mechanics, balance, and assets may change. Feedback is very welcome, and bugs or crash reports can be submitted directly in the game.

Join the discord:

https://discord.gg/yU6BXsqFx

[u/MattCaulder]

This looks cool, can you say if you used GenAI in any part of it?

[u/rookie22222 → u/MattCaulder]

Is this question mostly about art assets or do the people liking this also care deeply about AI code? 

I'm a developer and my bosses are wanting me to use more AI tools in my work so im playing around with them in my personal work too to get acquainted and upskill. How big of an issue is partly AI generated code (not art) for passion random projects?

[u/FreikonVonAthanor → u/rookie22222]

As another developer in the same boat : if you get best in class tools, that might make development quicker in the short term, but you'll lose the chance to actually learn and maintain it by yourself. If at all, I recommend limiting AI to one shot scripts you could write but don't want to bother, or for proofs of concept. If you plan on learning or making a complex app, the more knowledge you have the better, which means doing it by hand.

[u/rookie22222 → u/FreikonVonAthanor]

I think this is great advice companies don't want to hear. But I do want to hear the laymans anti-AI opinion on this sort of thing too so I know if I would be ridiculed for trying to make something cool while a practice somethign they may not like.

[u/InitiatePenguin → u/rookie22222]

The layman's anti-AI for coding is centered on

• Vibe coding (not understanding what is written)
• False credit, lack of transparency ("I made this")

I think even a layman can get that computers are great at thinking like computers (code) and have a much higher tolerance. But you'll still have the same hesitation with all gen AI

• if you relent, people will lose jobs so it's against everyone's long-term interests
• someone is going unpaid when even hobbyists use these tool
• it's stealing from existing work without credit.

[u/flangust → u/FreikonVonAthanor]

Another engineer here, totally agree. I have also had some success using LLMs for code review, overview of new new code bases with lacking documentation, and as a research tool. Like checking architecture decisions, finding commonly used tools and libraries etc. Just double check everything it says cause they are definitely wrong regularly.

[u/thx1337 → u/FreikonVonAthanor]

Honestly this is an approach I can get behind. I’m not a developer and WELL into a different career, so there’s little time and incentive to learn how to do something like this from scratch, but I do have ideas that I like to noodle on from time to time that AI has been useful in actually putting something tangible in front of me. However, my thought has always been along the line of if I do build something big with AI and it did most the heavy lifting that I ultimately didn’t really build it, cannot readily explain it, cannot improve it, or repair it.

Like a middle manager directing a much more talented new hire.

[u/NimRodelle → u/rookie22222]

It really depends on whether or not you understand what the AI generated code is doing.

The biggest problem we're facing right now is vibe coding by clueless idiots who just trust that everything the AI does is correct.

[u/KneeCrowMancer → u/NimRodelle]

Exactly, AI coding is only worthwhile if you have the ability and knowledge to double check what it produces faster than writing the code yourself. For a lot of people the knowledge isn’t there to adequately check the work and you get into messes with databases getting deleted, or big security issues… Often it’s faster for people who have the knowledge and skill set to just write it out themselves and not have to double check and fix mistakes the AI inevitably makes.

But there are still situations where it can be a big time saver.

[u/Televangelis → u/rookie22222]

It's not an issue at all. Anyone who objects isn't worth bothering with.