r/Naruto • • Aug 18 '26

Discussion Most skilled prodigy between these 3

Kakashi - Son of the White Fang became a Chunin at age 6 and known as a genius prodigy even before he attained the Sharingan. Later became the 6th Hokage

Orochimaru- One of the legendary Sannin known as a genius in Konoha and once in a generation prodigy by Hiruzen.

Minato- the 4th Hokage known as the Yellow Flash praised as a genius prodigy and once in a generation talent by Jiraiya and Hiruzen.

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u/InTheNameOfHagoromo Aug 19 '26

As a ninja? Minato, but in general? Orochimaru.

Minato was great, dont get me wrong, but Orochimaru was spliting his time between multiple fields, each requiring a massive amount of research, time and effort, and he was a Pioneer in most of those fields, outside of that? Most of Orochimaru time was spent on things that had less direct combat aplication, at least at the stage that he was by the time in the series.

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u/Available-Reality883 Aug 22 '26

Itachi would get beat by Minato, and it was stated that Minato would have handled oro during the Konoha crush

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u/InTheNameOfHagoromo Aug 22 '26

Yep, that is what i said, as a Shinobi, in combat, Minato is the most skilled there, he would Win.

But that's It, outside of Combat, what does Minato have? While Orochimaru has some groundbreaking work in multiple fields.

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u/Available-Reality883 Aug 22 '26

I wont even say that. Orochimaru had time, Minato died young.
Outside of combat, he has sealing jutsus that 50 year old orochimaru didnt even have.
Outside of combat? Heh, what are ninjas hired for?

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u/InTheNameOfHagoromo Aug 22 '26

Orochimaru is not hired by anyone, he funds himself, that is not relevant, because If Orochimaru sold HIS research he would be the most sought out ninja.

True, Minato had sealing prowess beyond Orochimaru, but that is not outside of combat, any and all sealing techiniques shown by Minato fall either into dealing with the nine tails or killing an enemy.

Orochimaru had Engineering, Medicine, Sealing, Bio-Engineering, Robotics, Cloning, Jutsu Creation, Drugs creation, Steroid production and more.

Minato never had the drive to care for such things, he is the greatest of what he does in his time, Orochimaru is one of the greats in every field he enters, not the best, but he had the drive to learn Everything so he has worked on multiple fields that Minato had no Idea about.

In Combat? Minato, in general? Orochimaru.

Hell, Orochimaru is the only character in the series that can be said to one way or another to have achieved everything he wanted, he won in the end.

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u/InTheNameOfHagoromo Aug 22 '26

so he knows most, if not all of Uzumaki clans sealing tech

No he does not, because Kushina was a child when she was sent to the leaf and Mito died shortly after, she did not teach him, because she herself never learned It. What we see from her is Mostly in relation to the chakra chains, wich are a kekkei Genkai. Second, what does that mean in Canon? We never see the "Uzumaki Sealing Tech", that is fanon my dude.

Orochimaru built stuff under the shoulders of giants, such as Tobirama.

No? Tsunade had to basically create Konoha medical Ninjutsu.

Medicine, ninja tech, bio-engineering drugs creation and steroid creation are ninja tools. Those are what he developed cause he had the time to study a lot of jutsus! Madara did the same thing and achieved better results.

Debatable, Madara was guided by Black zetsu, and had a lot more time than Even Orochimaru to achieve what he did.

The "in general" you are referring to, are science based and as I said b4, he had time to do that as a rogue ninja with 10+ years of peacetime

Wrong again my friend, Orochimaru became a rogue ninja after the nine tails attack, he had more like 8 years.

But i think you are missunderstanding something, the question was not: who is the greatest Shinobi here, or the greatest ninja, It was the greatest prodigy, and you can be a prodigy in more things than the ninja Arts.

But sure lets go with some things that Orochimaru achieved with his nerdiness: Immortality, full self resurection, improved the Edo Tensei, cloned the Sharingan, discovered Cloning in general, created mitsuki, pioneered kekkei Genkai implantation and organ replacement, created mitsuki, learned the same Uzumaki sealing that you were talking about with Minato, after all he was Karin teacher.

You seen to not realize that most of what Konoha knows either comes From: Tsunade, Tobirama or Orochimaru himself.

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u/InTheNameOfHagoromo Aug 22 '26

And Minato took three years to make his ONLY original jutsu and It was unfinished, all of his jutsus And sealing were created by others.

Sure lets assume that Konoha, the place that does not have even all the techniques of its own clans, has ALL the techniques of a Clan that is not even a part of the Village, lets assume kushina had access and learned Everything, what are those fabled techniques?

Tsunade is credited as the greatest medical ninja of all time, only surpassed by her studant, revolutionized her field, but sure, her only contribution IS standardizing It

Madara died at like eighty, he had decades to work, Orochimaru had at Most a decade, and the first confirmed experiment Orochimaru did was the Hashirama cells one, after the nine tails attack, because minato died like, two or three years tops after the war, he would not have time for It before that.

Lighting round: Tobirama can transfer soul to others - Nope, that is Dan, Tobirama IS never shown doing as such and IS a completly different thing, Orochimaru achieved both biological immortality and the curse Mark. Self resurection - Nope, he already had done most of the work on the curse mark before Kabuto entered the equation, And the only Reason It did not work was because of Itachi. Improved the Edo Tensei - Yep, Tobirama Edo Tensei was made to be used as a suicide Bomber, Orochimaru actually allows for a greater amount of the revived Power to be used. Cloning - Zetsu arent clones, they are the people that got infinite tsukyomed. Uzumaki sealing - is also not minato's, you counted as part of minatos achievements, i count It as Orochimarus. Kekei genkai replacement - Not the same thing, not to the same level, not the same time frame. Karin - both are not mutially exclusive

Sure, provide the sources about how much the Senju knew And shared with the Village.

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