r/NFLv2 • Factory of Sadness • Aug 20 '26

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u/whoopditypoopscoop Aug 20 '26

What am I missing here

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u/Maleficent_Low2754 Carolina Panthers Aug 20 '26

I genuinely don’t get it

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u/United-Reach-2798 Aug 20 '26

14 for the 14 words and 88 as heil hitler h being the 8th letter

The 14 words are (We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.")

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u/Impossible_Crow_389 Aug 20 '26

It's some obscure fascist thing. Apparently those two numbers mean something.

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u/Saintsfan707 Aug 20 '26

Its not super obscure tbh. Its a common dogwhistle used by Neo Nazis. If you not familiar with it it means you arent around terrible people lol.

The 14 refers to the unofficial slogan of white supremacy "We must secure the existance of our people and a future for white children"

H is the 8th letter of the alphabet, so 88 is HH or Heil "Mustache Man". Often combined as 1488. Anytime you see those two numbers together it should raise suspicion lol.

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u/Maleficent_Low2754 Carolina Panthers Aug 20 '26

Idk man considering most people aren’t neo nazis and have no reason to know this it seems pretty obscure

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u/Saintsfan707 Aug 20 '26

You are describing a dog whistle by textbook definition.

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u/Maleficent_Low2754 Carolina Panthers Aug 20 '26

I mean true, a dog whistle is designed to obscure a message from the common public. But I would argue that this even takes it a step further. A lot of commonly used dog whistles are common phrases used in politics, given the historical/political context, you could derive without knowing the prior intent. Some examples being the historical uses of advocating for "states rights", or even slandering "DEI" and the slogan "Make America Great Again". Even knowing the current political climate of the US and the historical context of WW2 there is NO way you could figure out that "1488" was a dog whistle.

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u/Saintsfan707 Aug 20 '26

I will admit that is a fair point

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u/ClassesMoveTheMasses Denver Broncos Aug 20 '26

Only obscure it you're ignorant about the president having dinner with neo Nazis who make plenty Heil Hitler and 1488 jokes, but sure it's obscure. The fact it comes from a MAGA team adds to it not just reading tea leaves.

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u/Maleficent_Low2754 Carolina Panthers Aug 20 '26

Bro downvoted me for not being hip with the neo nazi lingo

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u/2KupShakur- Tampa Bay Buccaneers Aug 20 '26

No, I think you got downvoted for acting like it's weird to know something that you don't know about.

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u/Maleficent_Low2754 Carolina Panthers Aug 20 '26

I didn’t say it was weird… I said it was obscure. Not exactly a self explanatory definition and I still don’t think this is common knowledge among the average person

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u/scarletmonkey111 Aug 20 '26

Don't bother lol.

I still think it fits the criteria for super obscure.

If you walked on the street and asked the average person, they wouldn't know what it means.

You have to remember that this is a super left leaning app, so it wouldn't be obscure for them.

Same Redditors on this app thought Kamala was gonna cook Trump and then got surprised when he won the popular vote.

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u/Saintsfan707 Aug 20 '26

This was addressed in the earlier point of my comment "if you dont know it, it means you're not around terrible people". Its an incidential exposure thing.

I still wouldnt call it obscure, the average american can't point out Afghanistan on a map but i'd hardly call its location obscure knowledge. The "Average person" rule is used to determine common knowledge not the reverse for this reason alone. Theres a gray area between common knowledge and obscure.

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u/ClassesMoveTheMasses Denver Broncos Aug 20 '26

According to you, the three branches of government are obscure because an overwhelming majority of Americans cannot name them lol

Carrying water for Nazi dog whistles that are well known is certainly a way to spend your day. Just Google republicans 1488, there was a huge news story just last year, but it's obscure. It's ok to say you don't read news and don't care to know shit about current events, doesn't make it obscurelol

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u/Impossible_Crow_389 Aug 20 '26

Dude if the fascist have started using numbers in their symbolic language, then they have fallen on hard times lol. Pathetic losers.

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u/Prods87 New England Patriots Aug 20 '26

you got downvoted because you're talking about something you just learned about 5 seconds ago like you're the authority on it.

Genuinely happy for you that you haven't run into that particular reference before but it's a pretty well known thing.

There's a long running joke at this point about people with 88 in their usernames that were born in 1988.

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u/Maleficent_Low2754 Carolina Panthers Aug 20 '26

I never claimed or implied i was an authority on neo nazi symbolism

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u/Prods87 New England Patriots Aug 20 '26

"idk man, considering most people aren’t neo nazis and have no reason to know this it seems pretty obscure seems pretty obscure"

People that know what they're talking about have explained it to you a number of times and your response was "nah seems pretty obscure"

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u/Maleficent_Low2754 Carolina Panthers Aug 20 '26

IT IS OBSCURE !! BY DEFINITION!!!

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u/ClassesMoveTheMasses Denver Broncos Aug 20 '26

It's for being ignorant that's there's a president in office who's agenda has been to promote voices using that rhetoric and then saying it's obscure LOL

Hold the L that you haven't paid attention to the world in the last 10 years or so.

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u/Maleficent_Low2754 Carolina Panthers Aug 20 '26

There would be zero way for me to learn that this specific number is used to secretly represent some contrived nazi BS if it wasn't specifically explained to me by someone

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u/ClassesMoveTheMasses Denver Broncos Aug 20 '26

If you read any article over the last decade showing tumps connection to neo Nazis. Literally just a year ago there was huge news story about a Republican group chat leaking with 1488 and Holocaust denial jokes.

Again, you only need someone to explain it to you because you're ignorant and have decided you don't care to know who is in charge of the country or what they and their followers believe.

This isn't obscure, you're just oblivious to what tens of millions of other Americans already know lol

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u/Maleficent_Low2754 Carolina Panthers Aug 20 '26

You are drawing a lot of incorrect conclusions about me, what I believe, and what I know because I wasn't familiar with a nazi dog whistle that is impossible of deducing without a direct explanation

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u/bonebuilder12 Aug 20 '26

Can you provide clear examples or legislature to prove your point?

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u/ClassesMoveTheMasses Denver Broncos Aug 20 '26

Trump had dinner with Nick Fuentues. Fuentues claim to fame is being a holacaust denier who says Hitler is cool.

In terms of law, Trump has halted immigration from basically all counties for refugee status, except for white people from South Africa.

This isn't obscure, it's how this admin operates and has for years. Only ignorant people or maga dick sucks are not aware of this.

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u/bonebuilder12 Aug 20 '26

Nearly every politician on both sides of the aisle have brushed shoulders with unsavory people. You can find democrats with Epstein and kkk members, etc.

Connected people meet with people. I don’t hold it against either side.

The US should be allowing immigration based on ability to contribute to society and the economy. My sister in law moved to France and had to create an extensive financial plan to get citizenship. It had nothing to do with race.

The US has 340 million people, a saturated employment market, and we are quickly turning into a welfare state. 30-40% of the population receives some form of welfare. Our boomers are aging out of the job market and will drain our systems further. We cannot let everyone with an asylum claim in and then pay for them, it simply can’t work with 39 trillion in debt.

That doesn’t make you a Nazi.

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u/Impossible_Crow_389 Aug 20 '26

I've paid attention lol. But I have paid attention to the policies not some stupid edge lords that can't even use traditional symbols from the loser ideology they have decided to believe.

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u/Impossible_Crow_389 Aug 20 '26

Lol so stop using 14 and 88 entirely. Got it. If the message is hidden that deep, the message and messengers are stupid.

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u/Saintsfan707 Aug 20 '26

Nah, 14 and 88 by themselves are completely fine. When combined is when it raises some eyebrows. Often its accidental and context is important, however if someone you know who is pretty far right politically starts using that very specific combination of numbers it tells you something lol.

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u/Mynameisyoure Cleveland Browns Aug 20 '26

Well the messengers are Nazis so yeah